Mr. O’CONNELL. I don’t know whether I was. If my name is there, I was, and of course I was all for any organization that was fighting for constitutional liberties and still am, any organization that fights for them. Mr. TAVENNER. How long did you remain associated with the National Federation for Constitutional Liberties? Mr. O’CONNELL. Associated with them? Mr. TAVENNER. Yes. Mr. O’CONNELL. In what capacity? Mr. TAVENNER. In any capacity. You were a sponsor of the call for the constitutional liberties conference which gave birth to the National Federation for Constitutional Liberties. Mr. O’CONNELL. I imagine I was a sponsor as long as it took to sponsor the call. I don’t know how long that might be. But I had no office in the National Federation. Mr. TAVENNER. How was your assistance as a sponsor in this movement obtained? Mr. O’CONNELL. Have you got a list of the officers of the federation? Mr. TAVENNER. No; I do not. Mr. O’CONNELL. I would presume--if you had a list of the officers--I presume I was contacted through the officers. Mr. TAVENNER. Are you aware that this organization merged with the International Labor Defense, another arm or branch of the Communist Party, to form the Civil Rights Congress? Mr. O’CONNELL. My information is that the Civil Rights Congress was formed from a merger of these two organizations. That is as I understand it. Mr. TAVENNER. Our information is that the Civil Rights Congress was given grants totaling $63,500. Are you familiar with those grants? Mr. O’CONNELL. I am sure the Civil Rights Congress was given grants. Whether or not that total figure is correct or not I couldn’t say. Mr. TAVENNER. Civil Rights Congress was cited as subversive and Communist by Attorney General Tom Clark in 1947 and in 1948. Mr. O’CONNELL. As I understand, they now are going through proceedings before the Board to determine whether or not they are? Mr. TAVENNER. Yes, whether or not they will be required to register. That is the provision of law. Mr. O’CONNELL. I mean the determination of whether or not they register is whether or not they are a Communist-front organization. Mr. TAVENNER. They are probably making the defense that they are not required to. Did you also make grants totaling $10,125 to the National Negro Congress which subsequently was increased to $54,530? Mr. O’CONNELL. That sounds--I am sure grants were made to the National Negro Congress for the employment of a labor secretary to work particularly on the organizing of both working and unemployed Negroes in the Southern States. I am sure that was done. Mr. TAVENNER. Were you aware that that organization was cited as subversive and Communist by the Attorney General Tom Clark, on December 4, 1947, and again on September 21, 1948? Mr. O’CONNELL. Do you know when our grants were made to the National Negro Congress? Mr. TAVENNER. Yes, from 1942 until March 1951.