“Thereupon I answer to-day as I have done before.” On the subject of the Church Militant, she said: “I believe indeed in the Church which is here below; but for my words and deeds, as I have said elsewhere, I rely on and refer me to the only God. I believe that the Church Militant cannot err or fail; but as to my words and deeds, I submit them and refer all to God, Who caused me to do what I have done. I submit me to God, my Creator, Who caused me to do all these things; I refer me to God thereupon and to my own self.” “Do you mean by this to say that you have no judge on earth? Is not our Holy Father, the Pope, your judge?” “I will say nothing else to you. I have a good Master, that is God; it is to Him I look in everything and to none other.” “If you will not believe in the Church, if you will not believe that Article of the Creed, ‘the Church, One, Holy, Catholic,’ you will be declared a heretic and, by other judges, punished with the pains of fire.” “I will say no more to you, and, if I saw the fire, I should say all that I am saying to you, and naught else.”[89] “If a General Council—that is to say, our Holy Father the Pope, the Cardinals, Bishops and others—were here, would you not then refer and submit yourself to this Holy Council?” “You shall drag nothing else from me upon this.” “Will you submit to our Holy Father the Pope?” “Take me to him, I will reply to him.” [She would answer no more.] On the subject of the 3rd Article, she replied: “As to my garments, I will indeed take a long dress and a woman’s hood to go to Church and to receive there the Sacrament of the Eucharist—as I said elsewhere—provided that, directly after, I may put off that dress and take again what I bear at this moment.” And when it was suggested to her that she had taken this dress without necessity, especially while in prison, she said: “When I have done that for which I am sent by God, I will resume woman’s dress.” “Do you think you do well to wear a man’s dress?” “I refer me to Our Lord.” “Will you leave off wearing this dress and the believing that you do right in wearing it? Will you resume a woman’s dress?” “I will do nothing different.” On the subject of the 4th Article she replied: “I have blasphemed neither God nor His Saints.” “When Saint Catherine and Saint Margaret came to you, did you make the sign of the Cross?” “Sometimes I made it, sometimes not.” On the subject of the 5th Article she answered: “As to my revelations, I refer me to my Judge—that is to say, to God. My revelations came to me from God direct.”