JOSIAH. Oh! yes, Mr. Alcott! doing is the most important part. We must
ask God for help, and at the same time try to do the thing we are to be
helped about. If a boy should be good all day, and have no temptation,
it would not be very much; there would be no improvement; but if he had
temptation, he could pray and feel the prayer, and try to overcome it,
and would overcome it; and then there would be a real prayer and a real
improvement. That would be something. Temptation is always necessary to
a real prayer, I think. I don't believe there is ever any real prayer
before there is a temptation; because we may think and feel and say our
prayer; but there cannot be any doing, without there is something to be
done.
MR. ALCOTT. Well, Josiah, that will do now. Shall some one else speak?
JOSIAH. Oh, Mr. Alcott, I have not half done!
EDWARD J. Mr. Alcott, what is the use of responding in church?
MR. ALCOTT. Cannot you tell?
EDWARD J. No; I never knew.
JOSIAH. Oh! Mr. Alcott!
MR. ALCOTT. Well, Josiah, do you know?
JOSIAH. Why, Edward! is it not just like a mother's telling her child
the words? The child wants to pray; it don't know how to express its
real thoughts, as we often say to Mr. Alcott here; and the mother says
words, and the child repeats after her the words.
EDWARD J. Yes; but I don't see what good it does.
JOSIAH. What! if the mother says the words, and the child repeats them
and feels them,--really wants the things that are prayed for,--can't
you see that it does some good?
EDWARD J. It teaches the word-prayer--it is not the real prayer.
JOSIAH. Yet it must be the real prayer, and the real prayer must have
some words.
But, Mr. Alcott, I think it would be a great deal better, if, at
church, everybody prayed for themselves. I don't see why one person
should pray for all the rest. Why could not the minister pray for
himself, and the people pray for themselves? and why should not all
communicate their thoughts? Why should only one speak? Why should not
all be preachers? Everybody could say something; at least, everybody
could say their own prayers, for they know what they want. Every person
knows the temptations they have, and people are tempted to do different
things. Mr. Alcott, I think Sunday ought to come oftener.
MR. ALCOTT. Our hearts can make all time Sunday.
JOSIAH. Why, then, nothing could be done! There must be week-days, I
know--some week-days; I said, Sunday oftener.
MR. ALCOTT. But you wanted the prayers to be doing prayers. Now some of
the rest may tell me, how you could pray doing prayers.
GEORGE K. Place is of no consequence. I think prayer is in our hearts.
Christian prayed in the cave of Giant Despair. We can pray anywhere,
because we can have faith anywhere.
MR. ALCOTT. Faith, then, is necessary?
GEORGE K. Yes; for it is faith that makes the prayer.
MR. ALCOTT. Suppose an instance of prayer in yourself.
GEORGE K. I can pray going to bed or getting up.
MR. ALCOTT. You are thinking of time, place, words.
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