PRESIDENT MacDANIELS: We have it at Ithaca; doesn't mature. DR. McKAY: We have two varieties at Beltsville that are outstanding as far as bearing is concerned. One is Lingenfelter, which has been a consistent bearer for us for a number of years, and the variety Shaul, that was mentioned in Mr. Stokes' report and has been mentioned here before, is a very good producer. MR. MCDANIEL: What species is the Shaul, is it _ovata_ or _laciniosa_? DR. MCKAY: It's _ovata_. It's a shagbark, as also is Lingenfelter. The one characteristic that is outstanding with these two varieties with us is the fact that they bear while they are young trees; from the time our trees were as tall as one's head, they have been full of nuts. MR. MCDANIEL: Have you fruited the Weschke at Beltsville? DR. MCKAY: No. PRESIDENT MacDANIELS: How about the Barnes? MR. STOKE: I have been growing it on mockernut or white hickory. It produces moderate crops and is the one that came into bearing about first on mockernut. In fact, I have several varieties on mockernut that haven't borne yet. It's been on there about 12 years. PRESIDENT MacDANIELS: The Barnes, with us, has yielded more at a younger age than any other variety, but it never filled. It began early and bore heavy crops, but the season is not long enough or hot enough. MR. STOKE: In Virginia they fill well, but they are not easily extracted. The shell is rather thin and fills well. PRESIDENT MacDANIELS: I don't want to prolong this discussion longer than seems profitable. DR. MCKAY: Did I understand you to mention the variety Schinnerling? MR. GERARDI: I have got that at home. That's one that's bearing, but if it's that variety I have there, I wouldn't give it yard room. DR. MCKAY: It is also one of our best. We have three, the Shaul, the Lingenfelter that I mentioned, and the third one is Schinnerling, all three of which are extremely heavy bearers and the three hickory varieties that we are interested in. MR. GERARDI: How big is that Schinnerling? DR. MCKAY: It's an average-sized nut. MR, GERARDI: Big as your thumb? DR. MCKAY: Oh, yes, about an inch long, I'd say. MR. BECKER: I was wondering about the Stratford. That's not supposed to be a pure shagbark, but it's the only one we've got, I think, that bears. PRESIDENT MacDANIELS: I have the Stratford. It grows very well, but it doesn't quite fill. What does it do with you? MR. SNYDER: It's not been doing well the last year or two. Of course, none of them have for that matter. Used to bear tremendous crops and filled well. I wouldn't say it's the best quality of any tree, but it's easy to graft and bears young. PRESIDENT MacDANIELS: That's been my experience, that it was a young bearer and bears fairly consistently. If there is no other discussion, on the hickories, we will close that discussion. We stand adjourned until this evening at 7:20. Adjournment at 4:30 o'clock, p.m. MONDAY EVENING SESSION Called to order at 7:20 p.m.