THE PRESIDENT: I am glad to hear that statement. I have understood that the Indian peach will come true to that group but it will not be the big Indian peach you have planted. It is a fact that some of those groups have a tendency to come true to the group. PROFESSOR CLOSE: Yes, they come true to the group and so will apples. MR. DORR: May I ask another question? What has become of some of those beautiful, delicious seedlings in southern Indiana they had when I was a boy? THE PRESIDENT: The same thing that became of Washington and Lincoln--they died. MR. MCELDERRY: It is a boy's taste, not the peach, that makes it seem better than the ones we have now. MR. W. C. REED: I feel that Mr. McCoy discouraged us too much about grafting. I think either method he used will succeed very well. The main point is the time of the year it is done. Up to a year ago we began grafting a few days after the first of April, and continued up to the first of May, and our success varied from ninety per cent to nothing. We decided there was too much sap and went to budding. The last grafting we did gave us the only real good stand we got, that which we did from the first to the tenth of May. We had as good results then as we did in budding. THE PRESIDENT: That is good, Mr. Reed. I think those facts ought to be brought out and made a matter of a record. MR. REED: I think it is more the time in grafting than anything else. MR. MCCOY: Mr. Reed has a clay soil and that does not furnish the rapid flow of sap that a warm sandy soil does. MR. REED: You would have to begin grafting earlier. MR. MCCOY: Yes sir. MR. WHITE: Do you leave that cover of paper on when you coves it with wax? MR. REED: On part of them we did and on part of them we did not. In grafting walnut trees this season we left some of it on. MR. WOODS: Just a question as to the strength of that slip grafting. Will it blow off easily? MR. WHITE: The first year it will blow off a little bit easily. The first year you will have to tie it. THE PRESIDENT: Are there any further suggestions? If not the next thing on the program will be a talk by Dr. J. Russell Smith of the University of Pennsylvania. PROFESSOR SMITH: Mr. Chairman, and Ladies and Gentlemen: We have to educate the public--my good friend down by the window, I hope he will not take my remarks personally--is a case in point. He has come in with an argument, which the gentlemen next him says has cost his county lots of money. I am a grower of apples, an experimenter in nuts and I raise peaches to eat. I am planting seedling peaches and I know that when I go on that hillside of mine I can get little red seedling peaches and plant them and get the same kind, which have, I think, as much sugar and flavor as any big peach two inches or two and a half in diameter. I raise them true to the type too, but I would not think of putting out a commercial orchard of seedling peaches. My neighbor tried it, to his financial sorrow.