Q.--Were you appointed on foreign relations or finance committee? A.--No. Q.--Pending the discussion of the report you left the convention? A.--I left, claiming it was not a convention of the order. Q.--You don't know who I appointed? A.--No; I was not in on permanent organization. Q.--You don't know of operations outside of your own? A.--No. To Mr. Rogers--I voted at the convention under a vote taken on various motions. By Mr. Ryan--Do you know of any work having been done between Jan. 20, 1885, and the district convention. A.--No. Q.--How much did it cost for Mackey's work? Objected to by Feeley. Q.--When did you get that $500. A.--The check sent by Boland and Ryan will show I got the money from Ryan, but he received it by check. Constitution of the order offered in evidence. Examination of another witness. Obligated, name, etc. My knowledge when I was elected D. M. to fill vacancy, caused by resignation of John J. Marony. In July, 1885, his resignation was demanded by the district. In October I went out as an organizer for the National League through the west. Nov. 23, I spoke at Philadelphia. Several seniors mentioned that Dillon was in straightened circumstances. I promised to see the executive. I saw Gen. Kerwin, D. M., of New York. He said when I mentioned the matter to him, that he had no power; that this was not an order to grant pensions. He would see Boland. I met Boland by arrangement. He listened to what I had to say, and at first refused to assist Dillon. Finally he said he would consider the matter. Then he authorized me to pay $200 of obligations maturing. I advanced this myself, and got it back in December, 1885, and I saw Gen. Kerwin, and told him he should send money to Mrs. Cunningham; that the lady was hurt on the subject of her being neglected by us. He said he would send it. In December, 1885, it was rumored that our convention would be held in January, 1886. I was told by Kerwin and Boland that Egan wanted to retire from the Presidency of the league. I was asked by them to accept the Secretaryship of the league. This I refused. It was said considerable trouble might be looked for in any case; about the last of December I was sent for to go to New York. I saw Boland and Kerwin together at this time, as well as in January and February. Had interviews with Kerwin and Boland on the subject of the convention and like matters. Mr. Boland asked me why I would not take the Secretaryship. He said the plan for holding a convention of the order had been abandoned, as the L. R. then did not take place. Men would get out and I would not be selected as President of the league. Some time after this I received the following letter from Kerwin: