The Deipnosophists; or, Banquet of the Learned of Athenæus, Vol. 2 (of 3)Athenaeus, of Naucratis
Philosophy
The Deipnosophists; or, Banquet of the Learned of Athenæus, Vol. 2 (of 3)
Athenaeus, of Naucratis
Civilization, Greco-Roman; Dinners and dining -- Greece; Greece -- Social life and customs; Homosexuality -- Greece
I bought me now a nestis cestreus roasted
Of no great size.
Aristophanes, in his Gerytades, says—
Is there within a colony of man cestres?
For that they all are νήστιδες you know.
Anaxandrides says, in his Ulysses—
He usually goes supperless about,
Like a cestrinus nestis.
And Eubulus, in his Nausicaa, says—
Who has been drown'd 'tis now four days ago,
Leading the life of a sad nestis cestreus.
80. When all this had been said about this nice dish of fish, one of
the cynics coming late in the evening said, "My friends, are we, too,
keeping a fast, as if this were the middle day of the Thesmophoria,
since we are now fasting like cestres? For, as Diphilus says, in his
Lemnian Women—
These men have supp'd, but I, wretch that I am,
Shall be a cestreus through th' extreme of fasting.
And Myrtilus answering, said—
But stand in order—
as the Hedychares of Theopompus says—
hungry band of cestres,
You who are fed, like geese, on vegetables.
For you shall not take a share of any of these things before either
you, or your fellow-pupil Ulpian, tell me why the cestreus is the
only fish which is called the faster. And Ulpian said,—It is because
he never takes any living bait; and when he is caught, it is neither
effected by any meat nor by any living animal; as Aristotle tells
us, when he says "perhaps his being hungry makes him lazy;" and also
that "when he is frightened he hides his head, as if by so doing he
concealed his whole body." But Plato, in his Holidays, says—
As I was going out I met a fisherman,
And he was bringing me some cestres, and
He brought me all those worthless starving fish.
But do you tell me, O you Thessalian wrestler, Myrtilus! why it is that
fish are called by the poets ἔλλοπες? And he said,—It is because they
are voiceless; but some insist upon it that, by strict analogy, the
word ought to be ἴλλοπες, because they are deprived of voice: for the
verb ἴλλεσθαι means to be deprived, and ὄψ means voice.[5] And are you
ignorant of this, when you are an ἔλλοψ yourself? But I, as the wise
Epicharmus says, when this dog makes me no answer,—
Am by myself enough well to reply
To what two men have lately said before me.
And I say that they are called ἔλλοπες from being covered with
scales, [the word coming from the same root, and being equivalent
to λεπιδωτός]. But I will tell you (though that is not a question
which has been asked) why the Pythagoreans, who do touch other living
creatures, though sparingly, and who allow themselves even to sacrifice
some, absolutely abstain altogether from fish alone. Is it because of
their silence? for they think silence a very divine quality. Since,
then, you, O you Molossian dogs, are always silent, but are still not
Pythagoreans, we will now go on to the rest of the discussion about
fish.
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