The Greville Memoirs, Part 2 (of 3), Volume 1 (of 3): A Journal of the Reign of Queen Victoria from 1837 to 1852Greville, Charles
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The Greville Memoirs, Part 2 (of 3), Volume 1 (of 3): A Journal of the Reign of Queen Victoria from 1837 to 1852
Greville, Charles
Great Britain -- History -- Victoria, 1837-1901
[9] The notice was that _if_ Lord Maidstone persisted in
his motion, he would call the attention of the Crown to
a charge delivered by the Bishop of Exeter (nearly two
years ago), in which he had accused the Catholic
members of perjury and treachery.
[10] Many more, I am told, for 517 voted, and several went
away who would not vote.
[Page Head: LORD LYNDHURST AND LORD MELBOURNE.]
In the House of Lords there had been an early, but very smart
skirmish between Melbourne and Lyndhurst,[11] in which the former
drew a contrast between what would have been the conduct of the
Duke (who was absent) and that of Lyndhurst, and said that the
Duke was a man of honour and a gentleman in a tone which implied
that Lyndhurst was neither. Brougham stepped in and aggravated
matters as much as he could by joining Lyndhurst and taunting
Melbourne; but when Lyndhurst rose again to call Melbourne to
account for his expressions, Brougham held him down with friendly
violence, and (as he asseverates) was entirely the cause of
preventing a fight between them, first by not letting Lyndhurst
proceed to extremities,[12] and next by giving Melbourne time for
reflection. However this may be, when Lyndhurst asked him, 'if he
meant to say he was not a man of honour,' Melbourne made as ample
a retractation of the offensive expressions as Lyndhurst could
desire, and there the matter ended, not certainly much to the
credit or satisfaction of the Ministers in either House. I think,
however, that the Opposition have obtained a very mischievous and
inconvenient triumph, and that they would have done much better
to leave the question alone. O'Connell and John Russell made
better speeches than Peel and Follett, and the latter seemed to
be oppressed by a consciousness of the narrow, vindictive, and
merely party, if not personal grounds on which the question was
raised. They have dragged the House of Commons into a vote,
which, if it acts consistently, it ought to follow up by an
indiscriminate exercise of its authority and resentment upon all
the writers and speakers who have denounced the Committee system,
and they have procured a resolution declaratory of that being
libellous and scandalous which the public universally believes,
and every member of the House well knows to be true.
[11] The discussion arose out of a question Lyndhurst put
about some young children who had been confined in the
penitentiary, in solitary confinement, &c., _without
notice_. Melbourne fired up at this in a very
unnecessary rage, though Lyndhurst was clearly wrong in
not giving notice. Much more was made of this omission
than need have been.
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