Palladius said; ‘Say what you please; His Godhead is immortal.’ Ambrose, Bishop, said; ‘Whose? the Father’s or the Son’s?’ And he added: ‘Arius heaped together many impieties. But let us pass to other points.’ 27. Then was recited; “Alone wise.” Palladius said; ‘The Father is wise of himself, but the Son is not wise.’ Ambrose, Bishop, said; ‘Is then the Son not wise, when He Himself is Wisdom? For we also say that the Son is begotten of the Father.’ Eusebius, Bishop, said; ‘Is there anything as impious and profane as this which he said, that the Son of God is not wise?’ Palladius said; ‘He is called Wisdom, who can deny that he is Wisdom?’ Ambrose, Bishop, said; ‘Is He wise or not?’ Palladius said; ‘He is Wisdom.’ Ambrose, Bishop, said; ‘Then He is wise, if He is Wisdom.’ Palladius said; ‘We answer you according to the Scriptures.’ Ambrose, Bishop, said; ‘Palladius, as far as I can see, has attempted to deny also that the Son of God is wise.’ Eusebius, Bishop, said; ‘He who denies that the Son of God is wise, let him be anathema.’ All the Bishops said; ‘Anathema.’ 28. EUSEBIUS, Bishop, said; ‘Let Secundianus also answer to this.’ Secundianus being silent, Ambrose, Bishop, said; ‘He who is silent wishes to reserve his judgement.’ And he added, ‘When he says that the Father alone is good, did he confess the Son or deny Him?’ Sidenote: S. John x. 11. Palladius said; ‘We read, _I am the good Shepherd_, and do we deny it? Who would not say that the Son of God is good?’ Ambrose, Bishop, said; ‘Then is Christ good?’ Palladius said; ‘He is good.’ Ambrose, Bishop, said; ‘Arius then was wrong in asserting it of the Father alone, since the Son of God also is a good[28] God.’ Palladius said; ‘He who says that Christ is not good, says ill.’ Sidenote: S. Luke xix. 17. Sidenote: Ib. vi. 45. 29. EUSEBIUS, Bishop, said; ‘Do you confess that Christ is a good God? For I also am good. He has said to me; _Well done, thou good servant_; and, _A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good_.’ Palladius said; ‘I have already said, I do not answer you until there is a full Council.’ Sidenote: S. John vii. 12. Ambrose, Bishop, said; ‘The Jews said _He is a good man_; and Arius denies that the Son of God is good.’ Palladius said; ‘Who can deny it?’ Eusebius, Bishop, said; ‘Then the Son of God is a good God.’ Palladius said; ‘The good Father begat a good Son.’ 30. AMBROSE, Bishop, said; ‘We also are begotten of Him and are good, but not in respect of Godhead. Do you call the Son of God a good God?’ Palladius said; ‘The Son of God is good.’ Ambrose, Bishop, said; ‘You see then that you call him a good Christ, a good Son, not a good God; which is what is asked of you.’ And he added; ‘He who does not confess that the Son of God is a good God, Anathema to him.’ All the Bishops said; ‘Anathema.’ 31. The reader likewise continued; “Alone mighty.”