And when Palladius rose, as if he wished to go out, he said; ‘Palladius has risen, because he sees that he is to be convicted by manifest testimonies of the Scriptures, as indeed he has been already convicted: for thus it has been read, that in respect of Godhead the Son is equal to the Father. Let him admit that in respect of His Godhead the Son of God has no greater: it is written: _When God made promise to Abraham, because He could swear by no greater, he swear by himself_. You see therefore the Scripture, that He could swear by no greater. But it is the Son of Whom this is said, since it was He Who appeared to Abraham, whence also He says, _He saw my day and was glad_.’ Palladius said; ‘The Father is greater.’ Eusebius, Bishop, said; ‘When He spake as God, He had no greater; when He spake as man, He had one greater.’ 39. PALLADIUS said; ‘The Father begat the Son; the Father sent the Son.’ Ambrose, Bishop, said; ‘Anathema to him, who denies that in respect of His Godhead the Son is equal to the Father.’ All the Bishops said; ‘Anathema.’ Palladius said; ‘The Son is subject to the Father; the Son keeps the commands of the Father.’ Sidenote: S. John vi. 44. Ambrose, Bishop, said; ‘He is subject in respect of His Incarnation. But even you yourself remember that you have read; _No man can come unto me, except the Father draw him_.’ Sabinus, Bishop, said; ‘Let him say whether the Son is subject to the Father in respect of His Godhead, or in respect of His Incarnation.’ 40. PALLADIUS said; ‘Then the Father is greater.’ Sidenote: 1 Cor. i. 8. Ambrose, Bishop, said; ‘In another place also it is written; _God is faithful, by Whom ye were called unto the fellowship of His Son_. I say that the Father is greater in respect of the assumption of the flesh, which the Son of God took upon Him, not in respect of the Son’s Godhead.’ Palladius said; ‘What then is the comparison of the Son of God? And can flesh say, God is greater than I? Did the flesh speak or the Godhead because the flesh was there?’ Ambrose, Bishop, said; ‘The flesh does not speak without the soul.’ Sidenote: S. John viii. 40. Eusebius, Bishop, said; ‘God in the flesh spoke according to the flesh, when He said, _Why do ye persecute[30] me, a man?_ Who said this?’ Palladius said; ‘The Son of God.’ Ambrose, Bishop, said; ‘Then the Son of God is God in respect of His Godhead and is man in respect of His flesh.’ Palladius said; ‘He took flesh upon Him.’ Eusebius, Bishop, said; ‘Accordingly He made use of human words.’ Palladius said; ‘He took man’s flesh upon Him.’ 41. AMBROSE, Bishop, said; ‘Let him say that the Apostle did not call Him subject in respect of His Godhead, but in respect of His flesh; for it is written, _He humbled himself and became obedient unto death_. In what then did He taste death?’ Palladius said; ‘In that He humbled Himself.’