The Life of the Rt. Hon. Sir Charles W. Dilke, Volume 2Gwynn, Stephen Lucius
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The Life of the Rt. Hon. Sir Charles W. Dilke, Volume 2
Gwynn, Stephen Lucius
Dilke, Charles Wentworth, Sir, 1843-1911; Great Britain -- Politics and government -- 19th century
'On May 11th Fitzmaurice wrote to me complaining that no definite
instructions had been given him with regard to the conduct of the
Gordon debate' (on the vote of censure), [Footnote: See _Hansard_,
vol. cclxxxviii., 3rd series, debate of May 13th, 1884] 'as was
usual in such important cases, but stating that he expected me to
speak. On the next day, May 12th, I learnt that Hartington had
refused to speak, although he was finally made to do so by Mr.
Gladstone. On Tuesday, May 13th, I made a good speech from 12.10 to
1.10 a.m.--too late for the reporters. "The debate has (I noted in
my diary) been the best I ever heard. Mr. Gladstone was not so good
as usual, while Hartington and I were neither better nor worse than
usual. But Churchill, Forster, Cowen, John Morley, and Beach, all
spoke far above their usual level; and the rest were good. A
memorable debate, which I do not expect to see excelled for interest
and fire, and I am glad to have had the honour to wind it up for the
Liberal party." Afterwards I noted that it "does not read well."
'On May 14th Cabinet again decided that Nubar must not come over for
the Conference; discussed internal affairs of Egypt, then the
Conference again; and then called in Sir Evelyn Baring and discussed
with him the same matters of Clifford Lloyd, Nubar, Conference, the
Turks and the Red Sea ports, what was to be said to Waddington about
the Conference, and the detail of a scheme of Childers upon Egyptian
finance, which was extraordinarily unpopular with the Cabinet.
'On May 17th at noon there was a full Cabinet (Spencer being
present), and a long one. The first matter discussed was the Queen
and Conference, [Footnote: Proposed Conference of the Powers on the
Law of Liquidation.] and a strong objection on the part of Mr.
Gladstone to tell Parliament anything about the Conference.
Chamberlain wrote to me on this: "What a queer twist this objection
of Mr. G. is!" To which I replied: "I really wish he would have gone
to Coombe for this lovely day and let us go on without him. He has
wasted an hour and a half. Mr. G. will fight a whole day in Cabinet
to avoid telling Parliament something, and then after all will tell
them twice as much in reply to Ashmead Bartlett." On this
Chamberlain wrote:
"Here lies Mr. G., who has left us repining,
While he is, no doubt, still engaged in refining;
And explaining distinctions to Peter and Paul,
Who faintly protest that distinctions so small
Were never submitted to saints to perplex them,
Until the Prime Minister came up to vex them."
[Footnote: These were notes passed during the sitting of the Cabinet. On
Mr. Gladstone's inconvenient habit of giving information at question
time, see Vol. I., pp. 307, 384, 459, 535; and _infra_, p. 118.]
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