The Life of the Rt. Hon. Sir Charles W. Dilke, Volume 2Gwynn, Stephen Lucius
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The Life of the Rt. Hon. Sir Charles W. Dilke, Volume 2
Gwynn, Stephen Lucius
Dilke, Charles Wentworth, Sir, 1843-1911; Great Britain -- Politics and government -- 19th century
'On August 2nd there was a full Cabinet, every member being present,
and we had to consider whether, the Conference having broken down,
Baring should go back to Egypt or remain at the Foreign Office and
continue to advise us. Lord Granville proposed that he should
remain, and that Malet should go to Egypt. Chamberlain proposed that
Goschen should go. Childers proposed J. K. Cross. [Footnote:
Under-Secretary for India.] Dufferin was mentioned; then Lord
Granville proposed Northbrook. All other names were immediately
withdrawn, and Northbrook took time to consider, but evidently meant
to go, and decided, I think, in the course of the same evening.
Baring was then called in, and we once more began to chop straw by
considering the "ulterior consequences" of the collapse of the
Conference--i.e., bankruptcy. Lastly, Gordon was dealt with, and
it was decided that a supplementary estimate should be proposed,
with the understanding that we should spend more if it was wanted. I
wrote to Chamberlain: "We always have two subjects--(a) Conference,
(b) Gordon." And he wrote back: "The first always taking up two or
three hours; and the second five minutes at the fag end of
business."
'On August 3rd I noted "we are going to send Northbrook to Egypt to
put down Barrère."
'On August 5th we considered the instructions to Northbrook, or
rather whether he should have any at all, and if so, what they
should be. Northbrook read us a scheme which he had written, which
attempted to conciliate Turkey and Italy, so as to have great naval
strength in the Mediterranean and to prevent all chance of a sudden
occupation of Egypt by France. We were to express our continued
determination not to annex. We were to stay five years at the
request of the Sultan. We were again to propose to the Powers those
arrangements with regard to the Canal which we had proposed already.
We were to pay the indemnities in stock; and the next coupon in
full; and we were to promise for the future not less than 4 per
cent, on privileged stocks, and not less than 3 per cent, on the
Unified debt, while we were in Egypt. Indian troops were to hold
Massowah. Harcourt, in reply, read a written counter-statement,
again proposing to "scuttle," and again threatening us that we
should have war with France. Hartington again spoke for a guarantee
by us of the whole Egyptian debt. After Hartington's observations
the discussion was, as usual, adjourned. Chamberlain and I decided
that we would ask for our old term of three and a half years'
occupation, as against Northbrook's five. Next came Gordon, and
Hartington proposed that we should embody some militia.
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