Mrs. PAINE. I did tell her I was planning a birthday party for my little girl, and I heard her tell Lee not to come out because I was having a birthday party. At some point in this same telephone conversation likely I told him he did not need to have a car but to go himself to the driver training station. Mr. JENNER. You have described that event for us heretofore this afternoon. Mrs. PAINE. Yes. Mr. JENNER. Or this morning, I have forgotten which. Mr. McCLOY. May I interrupt here. I wonder whether or not you would want to take a rest now. We have been pretty arduous and let's take a little recess now. (Short recess.) Mr. JENNER. Mr. Reporter, would you read the last interchange or question and answer? (The reporter read the question and answer.) Mr. JENNER. Would you fix as best you can for us, the date or time that you first saw the wrapped blanket after you had returned to Irving? How long after that event did you see it to the best of your recollection? Mrs. PAINE. I have said it was the latter part of October. I don't think I can fix it more exactly. Mr. JENNER. That would be almost or would be over a month afterwards? You returned on September 24? Mrs. PAINE. I don't recall thinking, that is, that anything like that marks it as being particular noticeable. So that I am judging that I recall seeing it in October, somewhere towards the end. Mr. JENNER. Had anything occurred at that time that now leads you to fix it at the latter part of October? Mrs. PAINE. No; there is no way that I have to fix it. Mr. JENNER. Did you stumble over it or something? Mr. McCLOY. Could it have been as early as October 4 or the 7th when you first got the call from him when he first returned to Dallas? Mrs. PAINE. Conceivably, but I don't remember. Mr. DULLES. Then you saw it on another occasion, how many days later was that? Mrs. PAINE. I can't fix it that near. Mr. DULLES. It was several days later, was it, the time when it seemed to have been moved from position "X" to position "XX"? Mrs. PAINE. Oh, yes; that was later. Mr. McCLOY. Can you place it at all, can you place your recollection at all as having seen it in relation to the assassination? The date of the assassination? Was it 2 weeks before, 3 weeks before? Mrs. PAINE. I have inquired of myself for some weeks, was such a package in my station wagon when I arrived from New Orleans, and I cannot recall it, but I cannot be at all certain that there wasn't. I certainly didn't unload it. I never lifted such a package. Mr. JENNER. Only you and Marina took things out of your station wagon at that time? Mrs. PAINE. That is correct. Mr. JENNER. And you did not---- Mrs. PAINE. So I think I would have seen it. Mr. DULLES. In your earlier testimony I think in reply to a question, you indicated that you and Marina had only talked about this after the assassination that afternoon. Mrs. PAINE. That is right.