Warren Commission (03 of 26): Hearings Vol. III (of 15)United States. Warren Commission
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Warren Commission (03 of 26): Hearings Vol. III (of 15)
United States. Warren Commission
Kennedy, John F. (John Fitzgerald), 1917-1963 -- Assassination; Oswald, Lee Harvey
Mr. JENNER. And if you will just sit back and relax a little. I would
like to have you restate, if you now will, in your own words, what
occurred?
You dialed the telephone, someone answered, a male voice?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. What did he say and what did you say?
Mrs. PAINE. I said, "Is Lee Oswald there." He said, "There is no Lee
Oswald living here." As best as I can recall. This is the substance of
what he said. I said, "Is this a rooming house." He said "Yes." I said,
"Is this WH 3-8993?" And he said "Yes." I thanked him and hung up.
Mr. JENNER. When you hung up then what did you next do or say?
Mrs. PAINE. I said to Marina, "They don't know of a Lee Oswald at that
number."
Mr. JENNER. What did she say?
Mrs. PAINE. She didn't say anything.
Mr. JENNER. Just said nothing?
Mrs. PAINE. She looked surprised.
Mr. JENNER. Did she evidence any surprise?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes; she did, she looked surprised.
Mr. DULLES. You are quite sure you used the first name "Lee," did you,
you did not say just "Mr. Oswald," or something of that kind?
Mrs. PAINE. I would not say "Mr. Oswald." It is contrary to Quaker
practice, and I don't normally do it that way.
Mr. JENNER. Contrary to Quaker practice?
Mrs. PAINE. They seldom use "Mister."
Mr. JENNER. I see.
Mr. DULLES. And you wouldn't have said "Harvey Oswald," would you?
Mrs. PAINE. I knew he had a middle name but only because I filled out
forms in Parkland Hospital. It was never used with him.
Mr. JENNER. You do recall definitely that you asked for Lee Oswald?
Mrs. PAINE. I cannot be that definite. But I believe I asked for him.
Oh, yes; I recall definitely what I asked. I cannot be definite about
the man's reply, whether he included the full name in his reply.
Mr. JENNER. But you did?
Mrs. PAINE. I asked for the full name, "Is Lee Oswald there."
Mr. JENNER. Did you report this incident to the FBI?
Mrs. PAINE. I had no occasion to see them, and I did not think it
important enough to call them after that until the 23d of November.
Mr. JENNER. Perhaps I may well have deferred that question until after
I asked you the next.
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. Did any event occur the following day with respect to this
telephone call?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes; Lee called----
Mr. JENNER. What was it?
Mrs. PAINE. Lee called at the house and asked for Marina. I was in the
kitchen where the phone is while Marina talked with him, she clearly
was upset, and angry, and when she hung up----
Mr. JENNER. Excuse me, did you overhear this conversation?
Mrs. PAINE. I overheard the conversation but I can't tell you specific
content.
Mr. JENNER. Please, Mrs. Paine, would you do your very best to recall
what was said?
Mrs. PAINE. I can tell you what she said to me which was immediately
after, which is what I definitely recall.
Mr. JENNER. Thank you.
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