And he said, "Well, they say it just takes a second to die." And that is all I recall. Now we talked some more going down, but that is the thing that I recall. Mr. BELIN. Do you recall any other conversation that you had with him, or not? Mr. WALKER. No; he was just denying it, and he was saying that all he did was carry a gun, and the reason he fought back in the theatre is, he knew he wasn't supposed to be carrying a gun, and he had never been to jail. Mr. BELIN. Did he say anything about why he was at the theatre? Mr. WALKER. No. Mr. BELIN. Did he say why he was carrying the gun? Mr. WALKER. No; he didn't. Mr. BELIN. Do you remember what clothes he had on? Mr. WALKER. He had on a white T-shirt under a brown shirt, and a pair of black pants. Mr. BELIN. How would you describe Oswald? About how tall? Mr. WALKER. About 5'8" about 150 pounds, or 155 pounds, something like that. Mr. BELIN. What color hair? Mr. WALKER. I would say sandy, the best I can recall. Mr. BELIN. Sandy, by that, you mean blond? Mr. WALKER. Darker than blonde. I just don't recall this for sure. Mr. BELIN. Some shade of brown? Mr. WALKER. It wasn't what you call blond. It was darker than blond, in my opinion. Mr. BELIN. Was it some shade of brown? Mr. WALKER. Yes; the best I can recall. Mr. BELIN. Anything else about him on your way to the police station? Mr. WALKER. He was real calm. He was extra calm. He wasn't a bit excited or nervous or anything. That was all the conversation I can recall going down. Mr. BELIN. After you got down there, what did you do with him? Mr. WALKER. We took him up the homicide and robbery bureau, and we went back there, and one of the detectives said put him in this room. I put him in the room, and he said, "Let the uniform officers stay with him." And I went inside, and Oswald sat down, and he was handcuffed with his hands behind him. I sat down there, and I had his pistol, and he had a card in there with a picture of him and the name A. J. Hidell on it. Mr. BELIN. Do you remember what kind of card it was? Mr. WALKER. Just an identification card. I don't recall what it was. Mr. BELIN. All right. Mr. WALKER. And I told him, "That is your real name, isn't it?" Mr. BELIN. He--had he earlier told you his name was Lee Harvey Oswald? Mr. WALKER. I believe he had. Mr. BELIN. All right. Mr. WALKER. And he said, "No, that is not my real name." And I started talking to him and I asked him, I said, "Why did you kill the officer?" And he just looked at me. And I said, "Did you kill the officer because you were scared of being arrested for something?" And he said, "I am not ascared of anything. Do I look like I am scared now?" Mr. BELIN. Did he look like he was scared? Mr. WALKER. No; he didn't look like he was scared. He was calm. Not a bit nervous. Mr. BELIN. Any other thing that you can remember that took place during that time that he was with you? Mr. WALKER. No; I can't recall.