Mr. HILL. I was on special assignment, detached from the police patrol division, and assigned to the police personnel office investigating applicants for the police department. Mr. BELIN. Where was this? Mr. HILL. On that particular day, I was at the city hall in the personnel office, and did not have an assignment of any kind pertaining to the President's trip or any other function other than the investigation of police applicants. Mr. BELIN. When did you leave the city hall? Mr. HILL. The President had passed the corner of Commerce or--excuse me, Main and Harwood, turned off Harwood onto Main, and proceeded west on Main. I had watched it from the personnel office window, which is on the third floor of the police and courts building, and Capt. W. R. Westbrook, who was my commander, had apparently been on the streets watching the parade, and he came back in and we were discussing some facts about how fast it passed and the police unit in it, and we had seen the chief's car in it, and how Mrs. Kennedy was dressed, and we were sitting in the office when a lady by the name of Kemmey, I believe is the way she spelled it, came in and said that the President had been shot at Main and Lamar. Our first reaction was one of disbelief, but a minute later--she just made the statement and walked out--and a minute later Captain Westbrook said, "She wasn't kidding." And I said, "When she you mean?" And he said, "When she is kidding, she can't keep a straight face." And figuring it was true, the dispatcher's office would be packed to the gills, so I walked down to the far end of the hall on the third floor where there is an intercom box connected to the radio from the dispatcher's office, and also you can hear the field side of the intercom of anything that is said to the police radio, and this is down in the press room. I stood there for a minute and I heard a voice which I am almost sure was Inspector Sawyer--but being I didn't see a broadcast, I couldn't say for sure--saying we think we have located the building where the shots were fired from at Elm and Houston Streets, and send us some help. At this time I went back to the personnel office and told the captain that Inspector Sawyer requested assistance at Elm and Houston Streets. The captain said, "Go ahead and go." And he turned to another man in the office named Joe Fields and told him to get on down there. I got on the elevator on the third floor and went to the basement and saw a uniformed officer named Jim M. Valentine, and I asked Jim what he was doing, and he said, "Nothing in particular." And I said, "I need you to take me down to Elm Street." "The President has been shot." We started out of the basement to get in his car, and a boy named Jim E. Well, with the Dallas Morning News, had parked his car in the basement and was walking up and asked what was going on, and we told him the President was shot. And he said, "Where are you going?"