Mr. JENNER. Where did she live then, do you know? Mrs. EVANS. I think at that particular time she had a little apartment on North Carrollton. I never did visit her residence, so I don't know much about that. At that time she was living with her sister that lived right off of City Park, but it seems she had a basement apartment on North Carrollton. I don't think she was living there at that particular time. She did move in with her sister later, and from time to time she was with her, but at that particular time I don't think she was. Mr. JENNER. What's her sister's name? Mrs. EVANS. Oh, I forget. Mr. JENNER. Murret? Mrs. EVANS. Yes; Mrs. Murret. Mr. JENNER. Lillian Murret? Mrs. EVANS. Yes; her first name is Lillian; yes, that's right. Mr. JENNER. Did that acquaintance continue for some years? Mrs. EVANS. Well, I sort of quit playing cards, and I went and took an accounting course and went back to work, and I had not seen her for a while, and she remarried--to Oswald. Mr. JENNER. You learned of that, did you? Mrs. EVANS. Yes; to Oswald. Mr. JENNER. Did you see her from time to time in that interim? Mrs. EVANS. Well, I wasn't playing cards during that time or anything, but I might have run into her--I imagine I did, on the street, but I lost contact with her, sort of, and then--it was either just before Lee's birth or just after his birth; I can't remember; it has been so many years, but I met her on the corner of Canal and St. Charles. I think that was after Lee's birth. I think her husband had died, and I think she had just taken the baby to the doctor, or something. I think she told me they had wanted to have a little girl, but I can't remember all of that just the way it happened, you know. That's been such a long time ago, but I can remember meeting her; I just can't remember though if it was after her husband died, or if she was expecting a baby, or if she was the one that wanted a little girl. I can't remember if that was after the child was born. Most likely it was that she hoped they would have a little girl. Now, a lot of this was told to me after we became friends again, as to what happened. I didn't attend her husband's funeral or anything, and I didn't start seeing a good deal of her again until--let's see; she finally went to work downtown, and I happened to run into her, or something like that. She was working for, I think, Pittsburgh Plate Glass Co., and I was a widow and she was a widow, and we again sort of regained our friendship. Mr. JENNER. Your husband in the meantime had died? Mrs. EVANS. Yes; I am married now to Mr. Evans. Mr. JENNER. Your first husband, was he also a native-born American? Mrs. EVANS. Oh, yes; now, I met Lee's aunt one day at a card party. Mr. JENNER. That's Mrs. Murret?