Mrs. EVANS. I don't know what couple it was--somebody; she had put an ad in the paper or something--some young couple. I don't know their names. She said people told her that when Lee was in the high chair, that he used to cry a lot, and they thought they were whipping little Lee, so she came home unexpectedly one night, and the child had welts on his legs, and she told them to get out and get out now. So then from there she bought another house and sold that, and--now, this is what she told me; she told me that she bought this little double house, and she ran a sweet shop for a while in the front room there. Mr. JENNER. She told you that she sold that house and bought a double? Mrs. EVANS. Yes, as I recall, she did. Mr. JENNER. What's a "double"? Mrs. EVANS. That's really two houses, side by side; you have a door here and a door here, two entrances. They call them flats or duplexes some places, but we call them doubles. Mr. JENNER. O.K. I just wanted to make sure the record is clear on that. Mrs. EVANS. She bought that little house, and they moved in there with her three children. Mr. JENNER. Was that over at 831 Pauline Street? Mrs. EVANS. Well, that sounds like the address. I never went there myself. I don't even know where Pauline Street is, to tell you the truth. It's downtown some place. Then she left there, and Lee, I think, still was with the aunt, and the two boys were down at the other place--that home, and she got this job managing the hosiery store on Canal Street, and that's when I started seeing her again, and that was between 1939 and 1940, somewhere in there; around in there--the early 1940's, I would say. Mr. JENNER. At that time she was living where now? Mrs. EVANS. She was living with her sister then, I think, and Lee was with her, and the two boys were boarding at the Bethlehem Home. She would go down on Sundays to see her two boys. Mr. JENNER. How long did she remain with her sister? Mrs. EVANS. Well, I don't know how long she had been with her sister, but after she took this position, she finally went to Texas, and I don't know--I couldn't tell you how long, because I just started seeing her, well, we would see each other on Saturday afternoon or Sunday, something like that, you know, just go around a bit together. Mr. JENNER. How old was Lee at about that time, about 3 or 2, or what? Mrs. EVANS. He was 3 or 4 years old then. Mr. JENNER. He eventually was placed in the Bethlehem Home also, wasn't he? Mrs. EVANS. Well, she might have finally got him in, because her sister, as you know, had a big family of her own, and I think maybe she might have finally put him in there too. You see, they only take them at these places after a certain age, generally about three, I think. They have to be trained and all, and that's why Lee was always with her before that, and all her love, I think, she dumped on Lee after her husband died.