Mr. JENNER. This was in the spring of 1963? Mr. GLOVER. This was sometime after the first of May. And I think at this time I learned through them that Marina had gone to join him in New Orleans. Mr. JENNER. Was anything said about Mrs. Paine having taken Marina to New Orleans? Mr. GLOVER. Nothing was said about her taking her to New Orleans, but I do believe I knew at that time that Marina had stayed with her. I think I learned it through conversation with them. I don't remember having heard from or seen the Paines since the time they were at my house until the time that I have learned Marina had gone to New Orleans and had previously stayed with Ruth. And until the time that Mike came over and delivered the record player. I think Mike was the one who brought the record player, and I don't remember the circumstances on that, but I believe it was he. I am not sure I was home. I am not sure about that. Mr. JENNER. By the way, that letter that De Mohrenschildt wrote you from Haiti, does this refresh your recollection more exactly as to his remarks about what you have testified: "It is interesting, but before we began to help Marina and the child, we asked the FBI man in Dallas or in Fort Worth about Lee, and he told us he was completely harmless?" Mr. GLOVER. Yes; he used the word harmless, but I wasn't sure I was quoting what he said. Mr. JENNER. Are you recounting a sequence of events with respect to Marina? Mr. GLOVER. Yes; so I learned, at the time they brought the record player, that she had gone to New Orleans. Then the only other connection I had with them was that later than that, and now again I am not quite sure about the date, but it seems it must have been after I was married and I was still living on Southwestern, but I got a call from one of the Paines saying they had records that the De Mohrenschildts had given Marina. These were for Russian speaking people learning English, I believe, that they had, and what to do with them? And I said, bring them over here and I will store them. And I remember talking, and I remember Michael Paine brought the records over to me and came in the house, and I talked with him a little bit. At this time Michael Paine told me the last information I had about them. He told me that, I am not sure whether he said they were back, Marina was coming back, or Marina had already come back to Dallas, that Lee had lost his job and that Lee was coming back, and that was in the time I believe---- Mr. JENNER. Was coming back to live or was visiting? Mr. GLOVER. Well, was coming back. Presumably he lost his job and was coming back here. Mr. JENNER. Lost his job in New Orleans? Mr. GLOVER. Right; and he was coming back here to live. That is the last I heard of them until the event of November 22d.