At that moment also he start to agree with I, Oswald start to agree with my point of view and he show real interest in the fight against Castro. He told me that he was against Castro and that he was against communism. He told me--he asked me first for some English literature against Castro, and I gave him some copies of the Cuban report printed by the Cuban Student Directorate. After that, Oswald told me that he had been in the Marine Corps and that he had training in guerrilla warfare and that he was willing to train Cubans to fight against Castro. Even more, he told me that he was willing to go himself to fight against Castro. That was on August 5. I turned down his offer. I told him that I don't have nothing to do with military activities, that my only duties here in New Orleans are propaganda and information and not military activities. That was my answer to him. He insisted, and he told me that he will bring to me next day one book as a present, as a gift to me, to train Cubans to fight against Castro. Before he left---- Mr. LIEBELER. Was Geraci present throughout this entire conversation? Mr. BRINGUIER. Pardon? Mr. LIEBELER. Was Mr. Geraci present throughout this entire conversation that you had with Oswald? Mr. BRINGUIER. I think so, yes, sir; yes, sir. Mr. LIEBELER. Was there a Mr. Blalock there? Mr. BRINGUIER. Who? Mr. LIEBELER. Blalock, B-l-a-l-o-c-k. Do you remember him? Mr. BRINGUIER. Well, there was another young boy. What was his name did you say? Mr. LIEBELER. Blalock, B-l-a-l-o-c-k. Mr. BRINGUIER. I could not tell you, because I don't remember the name of the other boy who was there, but I think that I saw him just one time in my life. Geraci was with another person over there, another young boy, and---- Mr. LIEBELER. Did Oswald mention during this conversation that he could easily derail a train, for example, by securing and fastening a chain around the railroad track? Do you remember him mentioning something like that? Mr. BRINGUIER. Well, you see; I do not exactly remember all the details, because we were talking for about--I believe about 1 hour, something like that, and at that moment I didn't know what was going to happen and I didn't pay too much attention to all the things that was being telling over there, but the result of the conversation were this that I am telling to you. Maybe he mentioned that. I could not tell to you that he mentioned that, because I am not--I don't remember. He could have mentioned that, because he was talking about the experience that he had in guerrilla warfare in the Marine Corps. Before he left the store, he put his hand in the pocket and he offered me money. Mr. LIEBELER. Oswald did? Mr. BRINGUIER. Yes. Mr. LIEBELER. How much did he offer you?