The Governor commanded to torment them. They said, that they came first to another lordship which was called _Nacacahoz_, and from thence returned again to the west from whence they came. The Governor came in two days to _Nacacahoz_. Some women were taken there: among whom there was one which said that she had seen Christians and had been taken by them, and had run away. The Governor sent a captain with fifteen horsemen to the place where the woman said she had seen them, to see if there was any sign of horses, or any token of their being there. After they had gone three or four leagues, the woman that guided them said that all that she had told them was untrue. And so they held all the rest that the Indians had said of seeing Christians in the land of _Florida_. And, because the country that way was poor of maize, and toward the west there was no notice of any habitation, they returned to _Guasco_. The Indians told them there, that ten days' journey from thence toward the west, was a river called _Daycao_, whither they went sometimes a hunting and killing of deer: and that they had seen people on the other side, but knew not what habitation was there. There the Christians took such maize as they found and could carry, and going ten days' journey through a wilderness, they came to the river which the Indians had told them of. Ten horsemen, which the Governor had sent before, passed over the same and went in a way that led to the river, and lighted upon a company of Indians that dwelt in very little cabins: who as soon as they saw them took themselves to flight, leaving that which they had; all which was nothing but misery and poverty. The country was so poor, that among them all there was not found half a peck of maize. The horsemen took two Indians, and returned with them to the river, where the Governor stayed for them. He sought to learn of them what habitation was toward the west. There was none in the camp that could understand their language. The Governor assembled the captains and principal persons to determine with their advice what they should do. And the most part said that they thought it best to return back to _Rio Grande_, or the Great River of _Guachoya_; because that in _Nilco_ and thereabout was store of maize; saying, that they would make pinnaces that winter, and the next summer pass down the river to the seaward in them, and coming to the sea they would go along the coast to _Nueva Espana_. For though it seemed a doubtful thing and difficult, by that which they had already alleged, yet it was the last remedy they had. For by land they could not go for want of an interpreter. And they held, that the country beyond the River of _Daycao_, where they were, was that which _Cabeca de Vaca_ mentioned in his relation that he passed _of the Indians which lived like the Alarbes, having no settled place_, and fed upon _Tunas_ and roots of the fields, and wild beasts that they killed. Which if it were so, if they