A Report of the Debates and Proceedings in the Secret Sessions of the Conference Convention: For Proposing Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, Held at Washington, D.C., in February, A.D. 1861Chittenden, L. E. (Lucius Eugene)
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A Report of the Debates and Proceedings in the Secret Sessions of the Conference Convention: For Proposing Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, Held at Washington, D.C., in February, A.D. 1861
Chittenden, L. E. (Lucius Eugene)
Conference Convention (1861 : Washington, D.C.); United States -- Politics and government -- 1857-1861
Mr. BRONSON:--I also dissent from the vote of New York. My associate,
GEN. WOOL, is confined to his room by a severe indisposition. For his
benefit, and as I know he feels a deep interest in these votes, and
desires to have his name appear upon the record, in his behalf I offer
the following resolution:
_Resolved_, Whereas JOHN E. WOOL, a delegate from New York,
is unable to attend the Convention, from sickness, therefore
that he be permitted, when he does attend, or by
communication in writing to the Secretary, to have his
dissent recorded, as to any vote of his State.
This resolution was agreed to without a division.
The PRESIDENT:--The question now will be upon the adoption of the
substitute proposed by the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. FRANKLIN),
to the first section of the article reported by the committee.
Mr. FRANKLIN:--Before that question is taken, I desire to accept
certain verbal amendments which have been proposed by various members,
which will, I think, improve the substitute which I offer. These
amendments are as follows:
1st. In the fifth line, as printed, after the words "nor
shall any law be passed," insert the words "by Congress or
the Territorial Legislature."
2d. In the sixth line, after the words "the taking of such
persons," insert "from any of the States of this Union."
3d. In the eighth line, before the words "according to the
common law," insert the words "course of the."
4th. In the seventh line, after the words "prevent the
taking of such persons," insert the words "from any State in
the Union."
These amendments I adopt, and wish them to be treated as incorporated
into my substitute.
The PRESIDENT:--Such will be assumed as the pleasure of the
Conference, as no objection is made.
Mr. GUTHRIE:--I am content, on the part of the committee, that the
substitute offered by the gentleman from Pennsylvania should be
adopted in the place of the first section of the article reported by
the committee. It amounts to the same thing, and is expressed in
shorter and better language.
Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN:--I move to amend Mr. FRANKLIN'S substitute as
follows:[3] I think these words would be more acceptable to the people
of the Northern States.
[Footnote 3: This was a verbal amendment. I was not able to note it at
the time, nor have I since been able to procure it.]
Mr. PALMER:--Does not the gentleman's amendment involve an
Hibernicism? I think if we are to adopt the report of the committee,
the FRANKLIN amendment admits of no improvement. It had better stand
as it is. If we undertake to change it we shall all get to sea.
Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN:--I withdraw my proposition.
Mr. JAMES:--It was moved yesterday to insert the words, "or
facilitate" after the words "hinder or prevent," in that part of Mr.
FRANKLIN'S amendment which negatives the right to pass laws. What was
done with that?
Mr. FOWLER:--Nothing. I moved it, and I insist upon the motion.
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