"Dost mean Genoveva was not good enough to be taken up like old Elijah?" he cried out angrily at me, as he had never yet spoken to me. "Quietly, my Sonnlein, quietly; my reply meant not that I think not highly of our sister; but though we have holy writ that Elijah was translated, yet there have been, as thou knowest, many good men and women since that time who have had to go to heaven by way of the gates of death. I do not think our Genoveva was taken up to heaven, and in this I mean no disrespect." But he heeded not the gentle reproof in my voice, and after a while he asked, "Dost believe in the state of innocence taught by Brother Onesimus and his brethren while they were with us, and of whom thou hast told me so often?" "Nay, I ne'er had much faith in their heathenish practices," I replied shortly. Still he persisted, "They who pass through the ordeal of purification come forth with limitless vision and with mental powers unbounded." "Who hath infected thee with this disease?" I asked crossly. "I remember now that the day before Genoveva was taken from us Brother Benno, who was one of the thirteen that took the ordeal--and thou hast said thyself he was of the number--told me that since he had been purified he had often spoken to the spirit of his dead mother, and hath from here even seen his brother, who liveth in the _Vaterland_." "Brother Benno is an exceedingly pious man," was all I could say. "Dost not believe he speaketh the truth?" "To the contrary I should be the last to doubt his word; but in my short stay on earth I have heard pious men and women tell of things which to my thick understanding were not possible. It never seemed to me that man or woman could in the short space of forty days attain to physical and spiritual perfection. What I have seen of my fellow-man compelleth me to hold that even the longest lifetime is much too short for the making of ourselves in any wise so much as near perfect." But he only replied slowly, as if not convinced, "Still Brother Benno may be right; at least it can do no harm to try." "Try what?" I said very quietly to hide my dread his remark had put in me. "The ordeal. I have tried everything else. This one thing remains for me to do." To which I made stern answer, "All this nonsense cometh from the Evil One; thou art tired, discouraged, worn out in body and spirit. Rest for a few days, and with new strength and courage thou wilt have no inclination for such foolishness." To which he made no reply, but I could see his mind was, with all his love for me, set on going through this pernicious thing. And that it may be known why I dreaded this ordeal, which I hoped after the Eckerlings left us would never be undergone again by any of us, I shall set forth the manner in which the neophyte sought first physical regeneration, in order that he might be properly prepared for moral regeneration, and thus attain perfection.