Abridgment of the Debates of Congress, from 1789 to 1856, Vol. 3 (of 16)United States. Congress
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Abridgment of the Debates of Congress, from 1789 to 1856, Vol. 3 (of 16)
United States. Congress
Law -- United States; United States -- Politics and government
The gentleman from Virginia, in replying to some of his observations,
had said that he had conceived the charge exhibited was of a very serious
nature, but did not appear to comprehend in what respect he considered
it so, and therefore he wished to explain in what manner he considered
it as such. He considered it as serious, inasmuch as it was calculated
to excite suspicion and asperse the official conduct of the gentlemen in
question; but did not mean to insinuate, but on the contrary repelled
the idea of its being serious as regarded its sufficiency, if true, as
a foundation of impeachment. In order to show that the conduct of the
judges had not been so highly censurable even as the statement of the
gentleman from Pennsylvania, (Mr. SMILIE,) or his colleague and the
gentleman from Virginia, seemed to suppose, he begged leave to state
his ideas as to the rectitude of their conduct. Here he might use the
observation of the gentleman from Virginia, applied to one of his own
remarks, and say that gentleman had with no great dexterity confounded
two principles as distant from each other as the northern and the
southern pole. He seemed to assimilate the case in which the court have
arbitrarily withdrawn the question of law entirely from the jury, to
the conduct of the court in this case, which only went to restrict the
counsel from arguing before the jury a case already settled in the minds
of the court, by a train of judicial determinations in similar cases, and
in which they left both law and fact to the determination of the jury;
directing them as to the law upon the subject. He was warranted in his
opinion, because the gentleman from Virginia, in illustrating some of his
positions, had cited the case of libel as decided by Lord Mansfield, and
Mr. Fox’s celebrated declaratory bill, which grew out of that decision.
What analogy has that case to the case in question? Lord Mansfield
decided that in the case of a libel, all the jury had to do was to find
the fact of publication or not, and that whether when published it were
criminal or not, they had no right to determine, and thus withdrew
the question of law altogether from their decision. This was justly
regarded as a gross violation of that principle of the criminal law of
that country, which invests the jury with the right to decide as well
on the law as on the fact. This principle I fully acknowledge, and if
the court in the case of Fries had deprived the jury of that right, and
withdrawn the question of law from them, there might be some foundation
for this resolution. But, according to the statement of the gentleman
from Pennsylvania, the question of law and fact were both submitted to
the jury, with the instructions of the court on the legal question. He
had always been taught to believe that the court were the proper organ
through which the law was to be communicated to the jury, though he
did not deny but the jury had the right which they should cautiously
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