Cross-examined by Mr. Smyth: The vessel cost about £12,000 at first, and we expended £7,000 on her here, putting in new machinery in 1893. On the voyage out from England she was insured for £12,000. She came out under sail, as a barque, with funnels down. She was then in charge of Captain Munn, who gave her the character of a splendid sea-boat. He told me that. He is dead now. At the time she was trading in the Bay I believe the insurance was less than £4,000. I was managing director of the Company. I am not so now. I am still a member of the firm and also a member of the Marine Board. During my twelve years’ command of the _Alert_ in the Bay, I have seen her take some water on board. She did not quite fill the alleyways. She could not fill them as the water ran away through the port-holes and the scuppers. The pantry window was glass in my time. It was cracked by heat but not by water. I never gave instructions to Captain Mathieson to hurry up. I told him not to go so fast, and complained about too much coal being used. There might have been a time when she was in the Bay trade that she was not insured at all. She got Lloyd’s certificate in 1877 when she was built, and that was allowed to drop until 1893. We did not find it necessary to put her on Lloyd’s Register again in 1893; it was for our own convenience to put her back on it so as to give her a character again, in case we wanted to sell her. We paid the fees, £5 5s., for putting her back on Lloyd’s Register. My company subscribed £100 to the fund got up for the _Alert_ sufferers. Ponting had some I believe. He got it through us. I don’t think Huddart, Parker & Co. paid him anything at all. There was £1,200 subscribed. Mrs. Kilpatrick got her portion of that. I don’t think Huddart, Parker & Co. gave her anything. Only one writ has been served on Huddart and Parker in addition to the present case. I believe the plaintiff in the other case is Mrs. Mathieson—the late captain’s wife. I consider we did our duty when my firm gave £100 to the relief fund, to which the public subscribed £1,100 more.