Re-examined by Mr. Purves: I should think a vessel, perhaps two or three miles from land in the daylight, would have managed to reach Western Port; but in my opinion it would have been a dangerous thing to try. We saw nothing at all all day long. This concluded the evidence. * * * * * MR. PURVES submitted a point for the consideration of the judge: That the obtaining of certificates from the surveyors appointed by the Marine Act, and recognised under the Act, who surveyed the ship, and made the necessary declarations, was evidence of such a nature that in itself it was proof that the owners used all reasonable means to secure the sea-worthiness of the ship. His Honour would see the vast importance of this case to shipping companies. The conditions of the law were complied with in taking all reasonable precautions. MR. JUSTICE WILLIAMS: You contend that the certificates of the surveyors authorised by the Act are conclusive evidence? MR. PURVES: Yes; not merely evidence, but conclusive evidence. Unless it is shown that the certificates were obtained by fraud, they are actual proof of sea-worthiness. MR. PURVES, in addressing the jury on behalf of the defendants, made a severe attack on the witness, Robert Ponting, and urged at great length that the evidence given by him was not to be relied on. He (Mr. Purves) did not think that Ponting had told wilful untruths, but had simply got up a theory of his own as to how the wreck occurred, and repeated it so often to himself that he believed it, and also endeavoured to make other people believe it. There was no credit due to Ponting in the matter at all. He did not save or try to save anybody but himself. Indeed, even that he did not do, for Providence alone had enabled him to reach the shore, while better men were allowed to go to the bottom. The jury had sat day by day patiently listening to all the details of this most important shipping case, and he (Mr. Purves) was sure they would see that it was a matter which should never have been brought into court at all. No one sympathised more than he (Mr. Purves) did with the unfortunate plaintiff, Mrs. Kilpatrick, who had undoubtedly lost her husband and breadwinner; but that was no reason why the innocent owners of the _Alert_ should be called upon to recoup anyone for loss sustained through an accident over which they (the owners) had not the slightest control. It should also be borne in mind that Messrs. Huddart, Parker and Co. had sustained a severe loss themselves by the sinking of the ship, which was one of their breadwinners. Notwithstanding the serious loss to the firm, they had liberally subscribed to the fund got up in relief of the sufferers. From first to last the owners had done all that men could do. When the _Alert_ was taken from the Bay trade to be put into the outside trade, she was surveyed by the most skilful men that could be found,