_Landor_.--I allow them to be a nation of great fools. [82] In England, if you write dwarf on the back of a giant, he will go for a dwarf. [Footnote 82: Vol. iii. p. 135.] _North_.--I perceive; some wag has been chalking your back in that fashion. Why don't you label your breast with the word giant? Perhaps you would then pass for one. _Landor_.--I have so labelled it, but in vain. _North_.--Yet we have seen some great men, besides yourself, Mr. Landor, in our own day. Some great military commanders, for example; and, as a particular instance, Wellington. _Landor_.--It cannot be dissembled that all the victories of the English, in the last fifty years, have been gained by the high courage and steady discipline of the soldier, [83] and the most remarkable where the prudence and skill of the commander were altogether wanting. [Footnote 83: Vol. ii. p 214.] _North_.--Ay, that was a terrible mistake at Waterloo. Yet you will allow Wellington to have been something of a general, if not in India, at least in Spain. _Landor_.--Suppose him, or any distinguished general of the English, to have been placed where Murillo was placed in America, Mina in Spain; then inform me what would have been your hopes? [84] The illustrious Mina, [85] of all the generals who have appeared in our age, has displayed the greatest genius, and the greatest constancy. That exalted personage, the admiration of Europe, accomplished the most arduous and memorable work that any one mortal ever brought to its termination. [Footnote 84: Vol. ii. p. 214.] [Footnote 85: Vol. ii. p. 3. Ded. "to Mina."--Wilson.] _North_.--We have had some distinguished statesmen at the helm in our time, Mr. Landor. _Landor_.--Not one. _North_.--Mr. Pitt. _Landor_.--Your pilot that weathered the storm. Ha, ha! He was the most insidious republican that England ever produced. _North_.--You should like him if he was a Republican.