Two courses are suggested from Edmonton to the Red River, one by water along the Saskatchewan and Lake Winnipeg, another by road from Carleton, on the Saskatchewan, through the Prairie. No remarks are offered upon the character of the route between the Red River and Lake Superior, except that it is said to present no serious difficulties. "13_th Nov_. 1862. R.E." "DOWNING STREET, "18 _Novr_. 1862. "MY DEAR SIR, "I have had a long interview of two hours today with Mr. Berens, Mr. Colville, and Mr. Maynard; but I am sorry to find that matters have by no means progressed so far as I was led to expect. "I think I ought now to see Mr. Baring, Mr. Glyn, and yourself as soon as possible. "Can they and you come here on Thursday at any hour not earlier than 2.30 nor later than 4? If that will interrupt other business, I could propose 11.30 on Friday at Thomas' Hotel. "Yours sincerely, "NEWCASTLE." "CLUMBER, "7 _April_, 1863. "MY DEAR SIR, "I have received from Sir F. Rogers the draft print of your Bill, and his remarks upon it. "I still think it quite possible to meet your views respecting the lower portion of the Athabasca territory; but the _mode_ of doing it does not appear to me so simple or clear. "I should much desire to consult the Land Commissioners before the matter is settled; and I do not see that the delay of ten days or a fortnight from this date could endanger the measure, for Lord Monck wrote to me by last mail that the Parliament had as yet not begun business. "If you agree to this, I will send the papers and my remarks to the Land Commissioners at once, and see you (after getting their report) on Wednesday next, or any day after it, except Friday. "Pray let me hear by return. "Yours very sincerely, "NEWCASTLE." "DOWNING STREET, "6 _May_, 1863. "MY DEAR MR. WATKIN, "I hope and believe that the despatches in their final shape, as they went out to N. Columbia on Friday last, and to Canada on Saturday, were quite what you and the proposed 'N. W. Transit Company' would wish. "I added words which (without dictation) will be understood as implying 'No Intercolonial, no Transit.' "If you happen to be in this neighbourhood any day between 3 and 4.30, I shall be glad to see you, though I have nothing at all pressing to say. "Yours very sincerely, "NEWCASTLE." CHAPTER IX. _The Right Honorable Edward Ellice, M.P._