Chaucerian and Other Pieces: Being a Supplement to the Complete Works of Geoffrey Chaucer
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Chaucerian and Other Pieces: Being a Supplement to the Complete Works of Geoffrey Chaucer
Chaucer, Geoffrey, -1400
'Thou sayest soth,' quod she. 'Than, if thou loke to the
sonne, in what parte he be under heven, evermore he +hyeth him
in moving fro thilke place, and +hyeth meving toward the ilke
same place; to thilke place from whiche he goth he +hyeth
comminge; and without any ceesinge to that place he neigheth 100
from whiche he is chaunged and withdrawe. But now in these
thinges, after dyversitè of reson, revers in one thinge may be seye
without repugnaunce. Wherfore in the same wyse, without any
repugnaunce, by my resons tofore maked, al is oon to beleve,
somthing to be thorow necessitè comminge for it is comming, and 105
yet with no necessitè constrayned to be comming, but with
necessitè that cometh out of free wil, as I have sayd.'
Tho liste me a litel to speke, and gan stinte my penne of my
wryting, and sayde in this wyse.
'Trewly, lady, as me thinketh, I can allege authoritees grete, 110
that contrarien your sayinges. Job saith of mannes person,
"thou hast put his terme, whiche thou might not passe." Than
saye I that no man may shorte ne lengthe the day ordayned of
his +dying, altho[ugh] somtyme to us it semeth som man to do
a thing of free wil, wherthorow his deeth he henteth.' 115
'Nay, forsothe,' quod she, 'it is nothing ayenst my saying; for
god is not begyled, ne he seeth nothing wheder it shal come of
libertè or els of necessitè; yet it is said to be ordayned at god
immovable, whiche at man, or it be don, may be chaunged.
Suche thing is also that Poule the apostel saith of hem that tofore 120
wern purposed to be sayntes, as thus: "whiche that god before
wiste and hath predestined conformes of images of his +sone, that
he shulde ben the firste begeten, that is to saye, here amonges
many brethren; and whom he hath predestined, hem he hath
cleped; and whom he hath cleped, hem he hath justifyed; and 125
whom he hath justifyed, hem he hath magnifyed." This purpos,
after whiche they ben cleped sayntes or holy in the everlasting
present, wher is neither tyme passed ne tyme comminge, but ever
it is only present, and now as mokel a moment as sevin thousand
winter; and so ayenward withouten any meving is nothing lich 130
temporel presence for thinge that there is ever present. Yet
amonges you men, er it be in your presence, it is movable thorow
libertè of arbitrement. And right as in the everlasting present
no maner thing was ne shal be, but only _is_; and now here, in
your temporel tyme, somthing was, and is, and shal be, but 135
movinge stoundes; and in this is no maner repugnaunce: right
so, in the everlasting presence, nothing may be chaunged; and,
in your temporel tyme, otherwhyle it is proved movable by libertè
of wil or it be do, withouten any inconvenience therof to folowe.
In your temporel tyme is no suche presence as in the tother; for 140
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