The Doctor said, "The Third is this, _CHRIST ordained Saint PETER to be his Vicar in earth, whose See is the Church of Rome; ordaining and granting that the same power that he gave to PETER should succeed to all PETER's successors, the which we call now the Popes of Rome: by whose power in the Church particularly and specially, be ordained Prelates as Archbishops, Bishops, and other degrees; to whom Christian men owe_ [ought] _to obey after the law of the Church of Rome._ This is the determination of the Church." To this, he answered and said, "Who that followeth next PETER in living, is next him in succession: but your living refuseth poor PETER's living, and many other Popes that were martyrs in Rome that followed PETER in manner of living; whose conditions ye have clean forsaken, all the world may know it well!" The Doctor said, "The fourth point is this. _Holy Church hath determined that it is meedful to a Christian man, to go on pilgrimages to holy places; and there especially to worship holy relics of Saints, Apostles, Martyrs, Confessors, and all Saints approved by the Church of Rome._" To this, he said, "It were enough to bury Saints fair in the earth; but now Saints that be dead, be compelled to beg for covetousness! the which in their life, hated covetousness and begging. But I say to you all, and know it for a truth, that with your shrines and idols, and your feigned absolutions and indulgences, and your temporalities, ye draw to you all the richesse of this world." ="WHERE IS THE CROSS CHRIST DIED ON?"= "Why Sir," said one of the Clerks, "will ye not worship images?" "What worship?" said the Lord. Then said Friar [THOMAS] PALMER [Warden of the Minorites], "Sir, ye will worship the Cross of CHRIST that he died on?" "Where is it?" said the Lord. The Friar said, "I put case, Sir, that it were here before you!" The Lord said, "This is a ready man! to put to me a question of a thing, that they wot never where it is? And yet I ask you, What worship?" A Clerk said, "Such worship as PAUL speaketh of, that is this, _GOD forbid me to joy, but in the cross of our Lord JESU CHRIST._" Then said the Lord, and spread his arms abroad, "This is a very cross!" Then said the [HENRY BEAUCLERC] Bishop of LONDON, "Sir, ye wot well! that he died on a material cross." Then said the Lord, "Our salvation come in only by him that died on the cross, and by the material cross. And, well I wot, that this was the cross that PAUL joyed on, that is, in the Passion of our LORD JESU CHRIST." The Archbishop said, "Sir JOHN! ye must submit you to the ordinance of the Church!" The Lord said, "I wot not whereto?" * * * * * =LORD COBHAM ADJUDGED A HERETIC.= Then the Archbishop read a bill of his judgement, and convicted him for a heretic.