LUTHER, pointing to the words written before him.--"Most dear sirs, since my Lord Jesus Christ says, _Hoc est corpus meum_, I believe that his body is really there." Here the scene grew animated. Zwingle started from his chair, sprung towards Luther, and striking the table before him, said to him:[248] [248] Ibi Zwinglius illico prosiliens.--(Scultet. p. 225.) "You maintain then, doctor, that Christ's body is locally in the Eucharist; for you say Christ's body is really _there_--_there_--_there_," repeated Zwingle. "_There_ is an adverb of place.[249] Christ's body is then of such a nature as to exist in a place. If it is in a place, it is in heaven, whence it follows that it is not in the bread." [249] Da, da, da. _Ibi_ est adverbium loci.--(Scultet. p. 225.) LUTHER.--"I repeat that I have nothing to do with mathematical proofs. As soon as the words of consecration are pronounced over the bread, the body is there, however wicked be the priest who pronounces them." [Sidenote: PRESENCE OF CHRIST'S BODY.] ZWINGLE.--"You are thus re-establishing Popery.[250]" [250] Damit richtend ir das papstum uf.--(Zw. Opp. iii. p. 57.) LUTHER.--"This is not done through the priest's merits, but because of Christ's ordinance. I will not, when Christ's body is in question, hear speak of a particular place. I absolutely will not." ZWINGLE.--"Must every thing, then, exist precisely as you will it?" The Landgrave perceived that the discussion was growing hot; and as the repast was waiting, he broke off the contest.[251] [251] Cœna instabat et diremit certamen.--(Ibid. iv. p. 179.) The next day was Sunday, the 3d October. The conference was continued, perhaps because of an epidemic (the Sweating Sickness) that had just broken out at Marburg, and did not allow of the conference being prolonged. Luther, returning to the discussion of the previous evening, said: "Christ's body is in the sacrament, but it is not there as in a place." ZWINGLE.--"Then it is not there at all." LUTHER.--"Sophists say that a body may very well be in several places at once. The universe is a body, and yet we cannot assert that it is in a particular place." ZWINGLE.--"Ah! you speak of sophists, doctor: really you are, after all, obliged to return to the onions and flesh-pots of Egypt.[252] As for what you say, that the universe is in no particular place, I beg all intelligent men to weigh this proof." Then Zwingle, who, whatever Luther said, had more than one arrow in his quiver, after having established his proposition by exegesis and philosophy, resolved on confirming it by the testimony of the Fathers of the Church. [252] Ad cæpas at ollas Ægyptiacas.--(Zw. Opp. ii. part 3, p. 57.) [Sidenote: TESTIMONY OF AUGUSTIN.]