History of the Impeachment of Andrew Johnson, President of the United States, by the House of Representatives, and his trial by the Senate for high crimes and misdemeanors in office, 1868Ross, Edmund G. (Edmund Gibson)
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History of the Impeachment of Andrew Johnson, President of the United States, by the House of Representatives, and his trial by the Senate for high crimes and misdemeanors in office, 1868
Ross, Edmund G. (Edmund Gibson)
Johnson, Andrew, 1808-1875 -- Impeachment
That on this occasion (a Cabinet meeting previously mentioned), the
President communicated to Mr. Welles, and the other members of his
Cabinet, before the meeting broke up, that he had removed Mr. Stanton
and appointed General Thomas Secretary of War ad interim; and that, upon
the inquiry by Mr. Welles whether General Thomas was in possession of
the office, the President replied that he was, and on further question
of Welles, whether Mr. Stanton acquiesced, the President replied that he
did; all that he required was time to remove his papers.
Mr. Butler objected and the yeas and nays were ordered.
Yeas--Anthony, Bayard, Buckalew, Cole, Conkling, Corbett, Davis, Dixon,
Doolittle, Fessenden, Fowler, Grimes, Hendricks, Johnson, McCreery,
Morton, Patterson of Tennessee, Ross, Saulsbery, Sherman, Sprague,
Sumner, Trumbull, Van Winkle, Vickers, Willey--26--15 Republicans and 11
Democrats.
Nays--Cameron, Cattell, Conness, Cragin, Drake, Edmunds, Ferry,
Frelinghuysen, Harlan, Howard, Howe, Morgan, Morrill of Maine, Morrill
of Vermont, Patterson of New Hampshire, Pomeroy, Ramsay, Stewart,
Thayer, Tipton, Williams, Wilson, Yates--2-3-all Republicans.
So the testimony was received, and the following proceeding was had Mr.
Evarts, of Counsel for the President. Mr. Welles on the stand:
Please state, Mr. Welles, what communication was made by the President
to the Cabinet on the subject of the removal of Mr. Stanton and the
appointment of General Thomas, and what passed at the time?
Mr. Welles: As I remarked, after the Departmental business had been
disposed of, the President remarked, as usual when he had anything to
communicate himself, that before they separated it would be proper for
him to say that he had removed Mr. Stanton and appointed the Adjutant
General Lorenzo Thomas, Secretary ad interim. I asked whether General
Thomas was in possession. The President said he was; that Mr. Stanton
required some little time to remove his writings, his papers; I said,
perhaps, or I asked, "Mr. Stanton, then, acquiesces?" He said he did, as
he considered it. * * *
Question: Now, sir, one moment to a matter which you spoke of
incidentally. You were there the next morning about noon?
Answer: I was.
Question: Did you then see the appointment of Mr. Ewing?
Answer: I did.
Question: Was it made out before you came there, or after, or while you
were there?
Answer: While I was there.
Question: And you then saw it?
Answer: I saw it.
Question by Mr. Johnson (of the Court): What time of the day was that?
Answer: It was about twelve.
* * * Question by Mr. Evarts: Did you become aware of the
Tenure-of-office bill, as it is called, at or about the time that it
passed Congress?
Answer: I was aware of it.
Question: Were you present at any Cabinet meeting at which, after the
passage of that Act, it became the subject of consideration?
Answer: Yes, on two occasions. The first occasion when it was brought
before the Cabinet was on the 26th of February, 1867.
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