History of the Impeachment of Andrew Johnson, President of the United States, by the House of Representatives, and his trial by the Senate for high crimes and misdemeanors in office, 1868Ross, Edmund G. (Edmund Gibson)
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History of the Impeachment of Andrew Johnson, President of the United States, by the House of Representatives, and his trial by the Senate for high crimes and misdemeanors in office, 1868
Ross, Edmund G. (Edmund Gibson)
Johnson, Andrew, 1808-1875 -- Impeachment
In reply, General Grant admitted that the conversation had occurred, and
said that at the first conversation he had given it as his opinion to
the President that in the event of non-concurrence by the Senate in the
action of the President in respect to the Secretary of War the question
would have to be decided by the court; that Mr. Stanton would have to
appeal to the court to reinstate him in office; that he would remain in
till they could be displaced and the outs put in by legal proceeding;
and that he then thought so, and had agreed that if he should change his
mind he would notify the President in time to enable him to make another
appointment, but that at the time of the first conversation he had not
looked very closely into the law; that it had recently been discussed
by the newspapers, and that this had induced him to examine it more
carefully, and that he had come to the conclusion that if the Senate
should refuse to concur in the suspension Mr. Stanton would thereby be
reinstated, and that he (Grant) could not continue thereafter to act
as Secretary of War ad interim, without subjecting himself to fine and
imprisonment; and that he came over on Saturday to inform the President
of this change in his views, and did so inform him, that the President
replied that he had not suspended Mr Stanton under the Tenure-of-Office
bill, but under the Constitution, and appointed him (Grant) by virtue of
the authority derived from the Constitution, &c.; that they continued to
discuss the matter some time, and finally he left without any conclusion
having been reached, expecting to see the President again on Monday.
He then proceeded to explain why he had not called on the President on
Monday, saying that he had had a long interview with General Sherman;
that various little matters had occupied his time till it was late, and
that he did not think the Senate would act so soon, and asked, "did not
General Sherman call on you on Monday?"
I do not know what passed between the President and General Grant on
Saturday, except as I learned it from the conversation between them at
the Cabinet meeting on Tuesday, and the foregoing is substantially
what then occurred. The precise words used on the occasion are not, of
course, given exactly in the order in which they were spoken, but
the ideas expressed and the facts stated are faithfully preserved
and presented. I have the honor to be, sir, with great respect, your
obedient servant.
O. H. Browning.
The President.
Department of State, Washington, February 6, 1868.
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