Then bending the florin that it might be known again, he put it in his purse and shook hands with Luther, who drank his health, to which Carlstadt responded. "The more vigorous your attack, the better I shall like it," resumed Luther. "If I miss you," replied Carlstadt, "it shall be through no fault of mine." They once more shook hands, and Carlstadt returned to his dwelling. Thus, says an historian, as from a single spark often proceeds the conflagration of a whole forest, so from this small beginning a great division arose in the Church.[355] [355] Sicut una scintilla sæpe totam sylvam comburit. M. Adami Vita Carlst. p. 83. Our narrative is mostly taken from the _Acts of Reinhardt_, pastor of Jena, an eye-witness, but a friend of Carlstadt, and whom Luther charged with inaccuracy. [Sidenote: LUTHER AND CARLSTADT AT ORLAMUND.] Luther set out for Orlamund, and arrived there very ill prepared by the scene at Jena. He assembled the council and the church, and said: "Neither the elector nor the university will acknowledge Carlstadt as your pastor."--"If Carlstadt is not our pastor," replied the treasurer of the town-council, "St. Paul is a false teacher, and your books are full of falsehoods, for we have elected him." As he said this, Carlstadt entered the room. Some of those who were near Luther beckoned him to sit down, but Carlstadt, going straight up to Luther, said: "Dear doctor, if you will allow me, I will entertain you." LUTHER.--"You are my opponent. I gave you a gold florin for that purpose." CARLSTADT.--"I will be your opponent so long as you remain the enemy of God and of his truth." LUTHER.--"Leave the room: I cannot allow you to be present here." CARLSTADT.--"This is a public meeting. If your cause is good, why should you fear me?" LUTHER _to his servant_.--"Go and put the horses to; I have nothing to do with Carlstadt, and since he will not leave, I must."[356] [356] Spann an, spann an. L. Opp. xix. 154. At the same time Luther rose from his seat, upon which Carlstadt quitted the room. After a short pause, Luther resumed:-- "Prove by Scripture that we ought to destroy the images." A COUNCILLOR, _opening a Bible_.--"Doctor, you will grant me, however, that Moses knew God's commandments? Well, then, here are his words: _Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness_." LUTHER.--"This passage refers only to idolatrous images. If I have a crucifix hung up in my chamber, and do not worship it, what harm can it do me?" A SHOEMAKER.--"I have frequently taken off my hat before an image that I have seen in a room or in the streets. It is an idolatrous act that deprives God of the glory that is due to him alone." LUTHER.--"Must we then, because of their abuse, put our women to death, and throw our wine into the streets?"[357] [357] So muss du dess Missbrauchs halber auch. Ibid. 155. ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE CHURCH.--"No! these are God's creatures, which we are not commanded to destroy."