Investigation of Communist Activities in Seattle, Wash., Area, Hearings, Part 1United States. Congress. House. Committee on Un-American Activities
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Investigation of Communist Activities in Seattle, Wash., Area, Hearings, Part 1
United States. Congress. House. Committee on Un-American Activities
Communism -- Washington (State) -- Seattle
Mr. MOULDER. Mr. Johnston, you were on the stand yesterday
to testify in answer to questions propounded to you by Mr. Wheeler,
and the Chair asked you the question or a similar question, as to
whether or not you approved or disapproved of Communist infiltration,
influence, and domination of the labor union of which you are a member.
And you said that you hadn’t had time to give the question any thought
or consideration. We felt that by giving you sufficient time and
recalling you today you could give us an answer to that question.
(The witness confers with his counsel.)
Mr. JOHNSTON. Mr. Chairman, I feel that the wording of that
you just now mentioned was not the wording of the question yesterday.
It was a little different.
But, in answer to the question you just now raised to me, there is only
one thing I can do under that, and that is to--if I answer that either
way it would tend to incriminate me, and I have to invoke the fifth
amendment.
Mr. MOULDER. We will rephrase the question in this way:
Do you approve or disapprove of Communist domination of any union?
(The witness confers with his counsel.)
Mr. JOHNSTON. Purely as a matter of opinion, I do not approve
of any group, whether it be to control the trade-union movement--I feel
it should be a free union. Whether it is Communist, Fascist, National
Manufacturers Association or what-have-you. That is purely my opinion
on it.
Mr. MOULDER. Do you object to a Communist holding an official
position in any labor union?
Mr. JOHNSTON. On that one I will have to, as in the past,
invoke the fifth amendment.
Mr. MOULDER. Would you vote for or against a candidate seeking
office in a local laborers’ union if he were a Communist?
Mr. JOHNSTON. Mr. Chairman, I feel that, under our rights--and
I know the majority of unions, as I understand them--we vote by secret
ballot, the same as in our elections for the honorable representatives
elected by your people in your district, by secret ballot. And that is
a right that we are able to keep to ourselves.
Mr. MOULDER. Any questions?
Mr. TAVENNER. No, sir; I have no questions.
Mr. MOULDER. The witness is excused.
Mr. SYKES. Can I make a short statement here? I think it might
be helpful to the committee. It will take about a half minute.
Mr. JOHNSTON. Is that in regard to me?
Mr. SYKES. No.
STATEMENT OF JAY G. SYKES, ATTORNEY AT LAW, SEATTLE, WASH.
Mr. SYKES. Several witnesses here have invoked the fifth
amendment upon being asked the question: “Have you ever been a member
of a labor union?” And I know that the use of the fifth amendment in
answer to that question may have created some misunderstanding in the
mind of the public and the mind of the committee.
I would like to make it clear that the invoking of the fifth amendment
to this particular question is not meant to imply, nor should it
be implied, that I or my clients think there is anything at all
incriminating, in itself, in membership in a labor union.
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