Mrs. GUSTAFSON. My first child was born in 1945. So it was the year of 1945, maybe the latter part of 1944. I don’t recall exactly. Then in the fall of 1947 I went back to teaching in the Bremerton public schools, and have been there ever since. Mr. TAVENNER. Mrs. Gustafson, do you have any knowledge of the operation of the Northwest Labor School in Seattle? (The witness confers with her counsel.) Mrs. GUSTAFSON. I shall have to avail myself of the privilege granted me by the fifth amendment of the Constitution of the United States, which protects me from giving testimony which might incriminate me. Mr. MOULDER. The question asked was: Do you possess any information or knowledge concerning the school referred to by counsel? (The witness confers with her counsel.) Mr. MOULDER. He did not ask you for any specific information. He just asked you if you had such information, if you knew about the school. Do you refuse or decline to answer? (The witness confers with her counsel.) Mrs. GUSTAFSON. I shall have to avail myself of the privilege of invoking the fifth amendment for the reasons given before. Mr. TAVENNER. Did you attend the Pacific Northwest Labor School at any time? (The witness confers with her counsel.) Mrs. GUSTAFSON. I refuse to answer on the grounds previously given. Mr. TAVENNER. Quite apparently, Mr. Chairman, it would be a useless waste of time to ask any further questions regarding the operation of the school. (The Spring 1947 Catalogue of the Pacific Northwest Labor School is hereby made a part of the transcript, and appears herewith.) Mr. TAVENNER. During the period of time that you have been engaged in teaching have you been a member of the American Federation of Teachers unions? (The witness confers with her counsel.) Mr. TAVENNER. And I should add, for your information, that the American Federation of Teachers unions has never been cited as a communist front organization. (The witness confers with her counsel.) Mrs. GUSTAFSON. Yes; I have been. Mr. TAVENNER. Over what period of time have you been a member? (The witness confers with her counsel.) Mrs. GUSTAFSON. Off and on since I became eligible in 1937, whenever I was in the public schools. Mr. TAVENNER. The investigation which this committee has conducted within the past few years has developed information in several different parts of the country, and I refer particularly to New York, to Harvard University, to the general area of Los Angeles, and, I believe, also in Michigan, that the Communist Party made a very strong effort to get in a position to control the activities of the teachers unions affiliated with the American Federation of Teachers. Do you have any knowledge as to whether or not the Communist Party made an effort to infiltrate the American Federation of Teachers union here? (The witness confers with her counsel.)