Mr. STENHOUSE. Well, if form 57 requires references, I don’t---- Maybe it wasn’t form 57. I don’t want this to be misinterpreted. Mr. MOULDER. It is a standard application form required by governmental departments. Mr. STENHOUSE. I don’t recall any application in which I put references. It may be so. Mr. MOULDER. But you did make a written application setting forth your experience and qualifications? Mr. STENHOUSE. Oh, yes. Mr. MOULDER. And was there an oath on that application? Mr. STENHOUSE. Yes. Mr. MOULDER. Which you had to sign? Mr. STENHOUSE. Yes. Mr. MOULDER. And did anyone recommend you for this position to which you were assigned in Washington? Mr. STENHOUSE. Somebody recommended me in the sense that they referred my name and qualifications to Ellis Patterson. Mr. MOULDER. Do you know who that person was? Mr. STENHOUSE. I am not sure who it was. We had a large number of friends from Los Angeles at that time, and it may have been one of the people that we were active with in that Democratic campaign. I think it probably was. Mr. MOULDER. When you were made section chief, who was your immediate superior? Mr. STENHOUSE. (Name deleted.) Mr. MOULDER. Did he have anything to do with your promotion to that position? Mr. STENHOUSE. I am sure he did. Mr. MOULDER. Do you remember the names of the persons who were employed under your immediate supervision? Mr. STENHOUSE. Well, there was one fellow just prior to my promotion. (Name deleted.) Mr. MOULDER. I am not suggesting any of those persons be named in the record; I am testing your memory as to why you remember some people with whom you were associated and why you cannot remember the names of some other people with whom you were closely associated. Mr. STENHOUSE. I can remember the names of many of the people in my division because we have exchanged Christmas cards since then, and I have seen some of them since then. Mr. MOULDER. In line with Mr. Velde’s questioning regarding the first Communist Party meeting to which you referred, how did you go? By car, by bus, or by train? Was it just as you say, a short distance? How did you get there? Mr. STENHOUSE. No, I didn’t say it was a short distance. I said it was in Virginia. Mr. MOULDER. That is not far from the District of Columbia. Mr. STENHOUSE. We lived in Maryland. Mr. MOULDER. How did you travel to the place of the meeting? Mr. STENHOUSE. I suppose it was by bus because we didn’t have a car in those days. Mr. MOULDER. You went by bus over there? Mr. STENHOUSE. I say bus. I mean public transportation.