Mr. TAVENNER. I have kept a record of the number of those identified by you as members of the Communist Party. Out of the total list of 33 names, you have identified 19. Mrs. Hartle further testified that while she was in the underground of the Communist Party, which meant after 1950---- Mr. O’CONNELL. Where is that? Mr. TAVENNER. It is on the same page. I received a brief description of what this Independent Party was. I was told that it had been impossible to place candidates for the Communist Party on the election ballot and that steps were taken then to put Communist candidates on an Independent Party ticket and take this means of bringing the Communist program into the election campaign. The result was that we furnished to Mrs. Hartle a list of 49 persons certified by an affidavit to have attended the nominating convention of the Independent Party. Mrs. Hartle was asked to examine that list. Of the 49 persons appearing on the list, she identified 36 as known to her to be members of the Communist Party. Mr. O’CONNELL. That list, of course, is all 1952 with reference to the Progressive Party in 1950, with reference to the so-called Independent Party? Mr. TAVENNER. That is right. Mr. O’CONNELL. My testimony is that I left the State of Washington in October 1949. Mr. TAVENNER. That is correct. Mr. O’CONNELL. I could distinguish if we had the time, as far as these people were concerned, with reference to the Progressive Party as it existed when I was there. (Whereupon, a short recess was taken.) (The committee members present when the hearing reconvened were Messrs. Willis and Velde.) Mr. WILLIS. The subcommittee will come to order. Proceed, Mr. Tavenner. Mr. TAVENNER. Mr. O’Connell, you told us a few minutes ago that Hugh DeLacy had not been connected with your organization; that is, the Progressive Party. Mr. O’CONNELL. No; I did not say that he---- Mr. TAVENNER. You said he was not in an executive position. Mr. O’CONNELL. He was not in an executive position. Mr. TAVENNER. Was he an organizer employed by you? Mr. O’CONNELL. I do not remember whether he was there during the period when the party was actually organized, but he was there for a period of a few weeks. Mr. TAVENNER. That was in 1948, was it not? Mr. O’CONNELL. In 1948 when the organization work was being done. Then he later went on to the position with the national office of the Progressive Party. Mr. TAVENNER. He finally became the head of the Progressive Party for the State of Ohio? Mr. O’CONNELL. I think that is correct. Mr. TAVENNER. According to his testimony, he was employed as a State organizer for the Progressive Party in Washington from sometime around February or March, perhaps even later, of 1948, up to somewhere around June of the same year.