Mr. O’CONNELL. That is the first I knew--nobody told me that I was to be regional director of the IWO. As far as I can remember, as far as their clubs were concerned out in the Rocky Mountain area, they had one in Butte, which was the only one they had in the whole State of Montana. I think they had one down in this town called Steamboat Springs, Col. Those were the only two clubs that I know of in the Rocky Mountain area. There were certainly no--at least on my part, there was no idea I was to be regional director, because the first 2 assignments that I got were first to go down to advise this club in Butte and the other to go down to this Steamboat Springs, in Colorado, and clear up the question that the judge and the examiner were raising there. The judge at the time thought that the IWO and the IWW were one and the same. I brought Mr. Charles Cunningham, I think his name was, commissioner of insurance of the State of Colorado, to the judge to point out that the IWO was a fraternal benefit organization. Mr. TAVENNER. You have explained all that in exactly the same detail. Mr. O’CONNELL. Yes, but the concept that I was a regional director---- Mr. WILLIS. I am not so sure I followed you on the reason for the dismissal of the suit you filed. Mr. O’CONNELL. I did not dismiss the suit. Mr. WILLIS. I do not think I caught the point. Was it a jurisdictional question? Specifically, what was it? Mr. O’CONNELL. It was a motion to quash. Actually, it arose on the motion to quash the service of the summons. Mr. WILLIS. On what grounds? Mr. O’CONNELL. On the grounds that Mr. Budenz had immunity as a legislative witness before the State legislative committee that he was appearing before in the State of Washington. Mr. WILLIS. He was not from Washington--not a resident of the State of Washington? Mr. O’CONNELL. No; he was a resident of New York. Mr. WILLIS. You filed suit against him in Washington at a time while he happened to be there? Mr. O’CONNELL. While he happened to be there. Mr. WILLIS. But he was there on State legislative business? Mr. O’CONNELL. Yes. Mr. WILLIS. And therefore was immune from service, and that was the basis for his motion to quash? Mr. O’CONNELL. We served the summons on him. My desire was to get a test and a trial on the factual merits. Mr. WILLIS. Was it filed in the State or Federal court? Mr. O’CONNELL. In the superior court of King County. Mr. WILLIS. His motion to quash was based on the fact he was served with the papers while he happened to be in the State of Washington on State legislative business and therefore was not subject to service process? Mr. O’CONNELL. Yes. Mr. WILLIS. And his motion came up before the court and the court dismissed the action? Mr. O’CONNELL. Yes. Mr. WILLIS. Did you sue him elsewhere? Mr. O’CONNELL. And I did not pursue it elsewhere. Mr. WILLIS. You did not file suit elsewhere against him? Mr. O’CONNELL. By the time that was done he was gone.