Mr. O’CONNELL. I am pretty sure she was. I think she was employed both in--well, I couldn’t say whether she was employed both in 1948 and 1950 or just in 1948, or just in 1950, but my recollection is she was employed both of the times I was down here in 1948 and in 1950. Mr. TAVENNER. Was she known to you to be a member of the Communist Party? Mr. O’CONNELL. No; I had no knowledge that she was a member of the Communist Party or not. Mr. TAVENNER. I think the record should show Elizabeth Sasuly appeared before this committee on July 12, 1949, at which time she refused to answer any and all questions put to her by the committee pertaining to her membership in the Communist Party or any questions relating to Communist Party activities in the city of Washington. Mr. WILLIS. In light of that I think it is important for the witness to try to refresh his memory as to whether she was in fact employed on his return to Washington in 1950 or do the payroll records so indicate? Mr. O’CONNELL. Of course, Congressman, also I had no knowledge she was before the committee. Mr. WILLIS. I am not implying it. I want to be fair with you. You are a lawyer and you can see the point. Mr. O’CONNELL. Yes. Mr. TAVENNER. Possibly I can clear that up from reference to the records. The report covering the second quarter of 1950 by you to the House of Representatives shows that in April 1950 Elizabeth Sasuly was paid salary and expenses of $359.89. Does that refresh your recollection? Mr. O’CONNELL. Yes. My recollection, I knew she was employed by the committee, but I wasn’t sure which year, whether it was in 1948 or 1950 or whether it was both of those years, as a matter of fact. But, I again, I repeat that I had no knowledge that she was or was not a member of the Communist Party. Mr. TAVENNER. Returning now to Ruth Rifkin---- Mr. O’CONNELL. If I remember correctly, was Miss Sasuly cited for contempt? Mr. TAVENNER. No. Mrs. Markward was asked the question: Are you acquainted with an individual by the name of Ruth Rifkin? To which she replied: “Yes.” She was asked the question: What was the nature of your relationship with Ruth Rifkin? And Mrs. Markward testified as follows: I got a transfer card from this individual together with a note saying if I contact her I was to say I was Evelyn’s cousin. I believe she was living at McLean Gardens at that time. I called and made an appointment to meet her. She was quite cautious about the way this meeting should take place. We met at Union Station and had dinner later. I learned later she was working for the United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration. “Question. Where did she come from? “Mrs. MARKWARD. New York. “Question. What was the purpose of your contacting her? “Mrs. MARKWARD. I contacted her as Evelyn’s cousin. “Question. Did you pick her up on your rolls?