Mr. O’CONNELL. Well, I don’t know whether you could define it as affiliated--I made speeches before many groups that were involved in the fighting in behalf of the Spanish Republic. Mr. TAVENNER. Did you become one of the sponsors of the Medical Bureau and North American Committee To Aid Spanish Democracy? Mr. O’CONNELL. Right now I don’t remember whether I did, but I wouldn’t be a bit surprised. I am sure I did everything I could---- Mr. TAVENNER. I find your name on the letterhead of that organization on July 6, 1938. Does that refresh your recollection? Mr. O’CONNELL. I haven’t seen it but if I am on there--I want to say I did everything I could to save the Spanish Republic. I felt very intensely about it. I am proud of what I did. I feel the same way about it today as I did then. I think the position that I took as far as history was concerned was later in the establishment of the United Nations and disbarment of Franco Spain from the United Nations at least vindication of the position that I had taken. But in July of 1938 certainly that committee or that organization whose letterhead you say I am a sponsor on was not listed as a subversive organization or so described by anyone. Mr. TAVENNER. An examination of the letterhead of American Relief Ship for Spain bearing date of September 3, 1938, reflects you as one of the sponsors of this organization. Do you recall that? Mr. O’CONNELL. I don’t recall it but I am sure it is true. As I said, I worked every way I knew how for defeat of Franco and for the saving of the Spanish Republic. Mr. TAVENNER. Did you appear on a program of the Fourth National Congress of the American League for Peace and Democracy in Pittsburgh in November 1937? Mr. O’CONNELL. Yes. Mr. TAVENNER. November 26 to 28, 1937. Mr. O’CONNELL. I remember I missed the Army-Navy game. It rained and I was anxious to get to it. I remember I spoke at that meeting. Mr. TAVENNER. Was that in behalf of the Loyalist cause? Mr. O’CONNELL. It was in connection with Loyalist Spain. I think there was a resolution pending in the Congress to invoke the Neutrality Act against Germany and Italy for intervention and I think also removal of the embargo which had been placed against Spain. Mr. TAVENNER. Did you from time to time appear before various meetings of the Veterans of the Lincoln Brigade, and speak on the subject of the Spanish cause? Mr. O’CONNELL. I don’t remember how many times. My present recollection of that, which, of course, is some 17 or 18 years ago, is that I made 1 or 2 speeches at meetings of the Friends of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade. Mr. TAVENNER. In the course of the making of those speeches did you become acquainted with Steve Nelson? Mr. O’CONNELL. No, sir; I never ever met Steve Nelson; have never met Steve Nelson to this day.