Mr. O’CONNELL. No, I really didn’t know whether he was or not. My impression was that it was somebody by the name of Jack McMichael that was head of that. Mr. VELDE. If my memory serves me correctly, it was not until after that time. It was 1942. Am I right, that Jack McMichael became head of the Methodist Federation for Social Action? Mr. O’CONNELL. This was quite a while ago. Mr. VELDE. What contact did you have with Harry Ward as far as the American League for Peace and Democracy was concerned? Mr. O’CONNELL. About the only contact I had with him, I don’t know whether he personally, but somebody before him, asked me to speak at a convention or meeting they had out in Pittsburgh in November 1937. Then there was a banquet as I recall; I think after that time, something in the early part of 1938, in New York, where he asked me to speak and, of course, he presided at the banquet in New York. I don’t know whether it was at Pittsburgh, or whether he resided there, or not, but I remember his presiding. Mr. VELDE. Do you have any idea why he asked you to speak before the meeting? Mr. O’CONNELL. I think because of my position on foreign policy and particularly on Spain at that time. Mr. VELDE. Did you know any other leaders in the movement for the American League for Peace and Democracy? Mr. O’CONNELL. The only one I recall now is Dr. Ward. Mr. TAVENNER. Possibly I can refresh his recollection on that. Wasn’t Earl Browder one of the leaders? Mr. O’CONNELL. I don’t know. I really don’t know. If he were, any connection I had with the league--I mean I had certainly nothing to do with him. I mean, he wasn’t involved at the meeting that I spoke to in New York or the meeting I spoke to in Pittsburgh. I never saw Browder or knew he was involved in it. Mr. TAVENNER. In the extract from the minutes of the executive meeting which I read a few moments ago---- Mr. O’CONNELL. Where was this executive meeting? Mr. TAVENNER. It was held in the home of Mrs. Fowler, on January 13, 1939. Now, it was suggested at that meeting, according to what I read, that a person by the name of Mr. Smith would get in touch with Marcantonio and Jerry O’Connell to get their advice on how to proceed. Did anyone confer with you as to how to proceed to get Congressmen to lend their names as sponsors so as to form an impressive list for the American League for Peace and Democracy? Mr. O’CONNELL. No; certainly nobody got in touch with me. I don’t know of any Smith who got in touch with me. I know I never had anything to do; I never came down here and tried to give Congressmen teas. I don’t know who this Mrs. Fowler is; I don’t know who Berrall is. I think they were talking through their hat so far as I was concerned. I mean, I can’t speak for Marc. Mr. TAVENNER. Do you recall having been a speaker at the function of American Friends of the Chinese People in June of 1938? Mr. O’CONNELL. Yes; that was in New York, was it not? A banquet in New York. Mr. TAVENNER. Yes.