"And I," remarked Zoonah, "have conversed with people who have described the manner in which they kill them by hanging them with string by the neck on poles." Lulu, after thinking for some minutes, observed, "The English must have more people than they can manage?" "Why do you say so?" asked Doda, who, being the elder, took the lead in the conversation. "Because I see no end to be answered in killing him; it is surely sufficient that the one already dead should die. Killing his murderer will not raise him to life again, neither will it benefit his family: besides, it is depriving the chief of one man more." Zoonah interposed, "The English say that the murderer must be made to feel what the dead man felt--that was, to die." "But what help," asked Lulu, who, though the least educated, was the shrewdest of the three in argument,--"what help is that to the living? Why do they not _eat him up_ [a Kafir phrase for ruining any one by confiscation of his property], and let him live?" Zoonah spoke, in a low, deep voice, "Where _is_ the dead?" "_No_ more!" replied Doda; "he has ceased to be." "Then," asked Lulu, "how will he know his murderer has been killed or eaten up?--he is not there to see him." "What need," asked Zoonah, "for him to know he is no more?" "It would compensate his heart for the loss of his body," replied Lulu. "But," said Doda, "we have nothing more to do with his heart--his body is gone--he is no longer a man." There was a long pause. Doda was the first to break silence. "When," said he, "I inquire of my own heart, one view of the case makes me on the side of the English lawgivers. We know the two principals in a murder are the murderer and the murdered. The last has left this world, so we cannot call for his evidence. The murderer denies all about it. The English say, God made man; to destroy what God made is _ukwapula umsila_, to break His representative. It is clearly a case beyond the jurisdiction of man. It can only be understood and disposed of by the maker of the _dead thing_; and on these grounds it seems reasonable that the murderer should be sent the same path that he caused the other to go, in order that _they may meet and he judged before God_." "I see what you say," answered Lulu, after due deliberation; "it is too strong for me. Do the English do this from such views? They can talk: they do talk--but one cannot always believe them. His argument is good. My heart is satisfied; I have heard. My heart is satisfied with your words. Nevertheless, I do not comprehend--" And Lulu withdrew to ponder in silence on this argument. After this, Lyle bid Doda question Zoonah on all that he had seen in his late perambulations "to and fro" upon the earth. Zoonah complied partially, but omitted the episode of his being discovered by May, and outwitted also by the bushman.