The fourth day of the trial was the 27th of February. Fifty-three judges were present. The usual attempt to make Joan take the oath was made to the prisoner by Cauchon, and she was again cross-examined by Beaupere. Again questioned as to her voices, she said that without their permission she could not say what they said to her relating to the King. Asked if the voices came to her direct from God, or through some intermediary channel, she answered, 'The voices are those of Saint Catherine and Saint Margaret; they wear beautiful crowns--of this I may speak, for they allow me to do so.' If, she added, her words were doubted, they might send to Poitiers, where she had already been questioned on the same subject. 'How do you distinguish one from the other?' asked Beaupere. 'By the manner in which they salute me,' Joan answered. 'How long have they been in communication with you?' 'I have been under their protection seven years,' was the answer. Joan had referred to the succour which she had received from Saint Michel. On being asked which of these saints was the first to appear to her, she said it was the last named. She had seen him, she said, as clearly as she saw Beaupere, and that he was not by himself, but in a company of angels. When he left her she felt miserable, and longed to have been taken with the flight of angels. When Beaupere asked her if it was her own idea to come into France, Joan replied in the affirmative, and also that she would sooner have been torn to pieces by horses than have come without the will of God. 'Does He,' asked the priest, 'tell you not to wear the man's dress? and had not Baudricourt,' he added, 'wished she should dress as a man?' She said it was not by man's but by God's orders that she wore the dress of a man. The questions again turned upon the vision and the voice. Had an angel appeared above the head of the King at Chinon? She answered that when she entered the King's presence, three hundred soldiers stood in the hall, and fifty torches burnt in the great hall of the castle, and that without counting the spiritual light within. She was then asked respecting her examination before the clergy at Poitiers. 'They believed,' Joan answered, 'that there was nothing in me against matters of religion.' Then Beaupere asked the prisoner if she had visited Sainte Catherine de Fierbois. 'Yes,' she answered; 'I heard mass there twice in one day, on my way to Chinon.' 'How did you communicate your message to the King?' 'I sent a letter asking him if I might be allowed to see him. That I had come one hundred and fifty miles to bring him assistance, and that I had much to do for him. I think,' she added, 'that I also said I should know him amongst all those who might be present.' 'Did you then wear a sword?' asked Beaupere. 'I had one that I had taken at Vaucouleurs.' 'Had you not another one as well?'