C. I will say, I see no other way to remove them. T. The wisest among you see no other way; but have you ever known an error corrected by disputation? C. I have seen some minds confounded. T. The answer is true; but have you seen any one correct his errors by controversy? C. I may say, some minds have been changed by controversy. T. Have they been changed so as to abandon their errors? C. The change has been well, because they have received the truth. T. What truth have they received? C. They have received the truth of the Bible. T. What truth of the Bible have they received? C. They have received the truth of wisdom, which teaches them that a mind in a state of nature can not receive the things of God, because it is prone to evil continually. T. Is that a truth revealed in the Bible? C. It is a truth which no reader of the Bible can deny. It is a truth which God has revealed to mind. T. Will you read the truth to me from that Book? C. I will show you a passage. It reads, “The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge.” T. Does that passage say, that mind in a state of nature can not receive the things of God, or that it is prone to evil continually? C. It says, that the children were affected by the conduct of the father. T. What else? C. Why, if they were so affected, they must partake of the guilt of the father. T. How so? C. Because, it makes the children responsible for the conduct of the parent. T. How does it make the children responsible? C. By virtue of the law to which they are subject. T. What virtue is there in any law, which makes one mind responsible for the deeds of another? C. I see you are an infidel. T. How can you see what is not a fact? C. It is a fact that you cavil with God’s law. T. Wherein have I caviled? C. By denying what is written in the Bible. T. What have I denied in the Bible? C. The doctrine of innate depravity. T. I have not seen that doctrine in the Bible, neither have you. C. The doctrine is contained in the passage I have quoted. T. I do not see it. C. There is no one so blind as he who will not see. T. Then, I will need sight. Can you impart it? C. I can not make you see, unless you will try. T. I will not try to see what is not. C. Then, you may see what is. T. Then, you will produce what is, and let what is not alone. I saw you and your companion wrangling about what is not. C. Then, you must be blind. I see what is well, and, when a mind will not acknowledge the truth, it should be rewarded for its obstinacy. T. It should not be rewarded for what it rejects, because it is untrue. C. It should be punished for its obstinacy. T. It should not be punished for rejecting a wrong. C. The wickedness of mind must be punished, or God will not be just. T. How will God punish a mind for rejecting a wrong? C. He will not punish a mind for rejecting a wrong, but for rejecting the truth.