'Notwithstanding the outlay by the landlord in the interval of nearly L2000?--Yes, that is it. 'Table F is a list of eleven farms, on which there was practically no expenditure by the landlord?--Quite so, no recent expenditure. That is, between 1863 and 1887?--There was a good deal done in the famine time, but I did not take account of that. 'You had no evidence in these eleven cases of expenditure for many years prior to the fixing of the rent?--No. In these cases the old rents tot up to L361?--Yes. And the reductions only brought them to L280?--A reduction of 18 per cent. 'In other words, on the unimproved farms the reductions only average 18, while on the improved farms they went as high as 30 per cent.?--Quite so. 'SIR E. FRY: Were these two sets of farms different classes of farms?--They were practically of the same class.'[108] In the same way, in the case of the estate of Lord Leconfield, a great and excellent landlord in the County Clare, the Sub-Commission made no real allowance for a sum of L20,500 expended on twenty-seven farms. 'Am I right in saying that from 1852 to 1881 there was spent by Lord Leconfield L20,500 in these twenty-seven cases?--The return speaks for itself. That is the result of it.' 'No. 4: As an example of the reductions of the Sub-Commissioners were the rents put back to what they had been in 1852?--Very nearly. There is a difference, I think, of about 1/2 per cent.?--About 1/2 per cent. The rent in 1852 was L2524, and the judicial rents on these farms was L2632.'[109]