At what rate per mile would be the expense of such an improvement, supposing the road thirty feet wide?—About 528l. or 530_l._ Is not a road constructed with a roadway of sixteen feet breadth of solid materials, and with six feet on each side of that with slighter materials, a sufficient road for the general purposes of country travelling?—Yes; and generally the roads round Bristol are made with stone, about the breadth of sixteen feet. In your former answer respecting materials, you made use generally of the term roads “round London,” to what extent did you mean to convey the idea of that improvement?—I should think that the river, and the facility of the canals, might in all places allow you to carry the improvement ten miles round London; and perhaps where the canals or rail-ways come through the country, you might carry the improvement farther. Has not the system of road management at present practised, the effect of repressing efforts for acquiring skill and exertions of science, as connected with the business of road-making?—I think it has. Will you explain in what way?—Because the surveyors at present appointed are not required to have any particular skill in their business before they are appointed; but the appointment generally takes place to provide for some person a situation; and the want of superior officers over the sub-surveyors is the means of preventing those sub-surveyors from acquiring a knowledge necessary to execute their duties under an officer who would know whether they were able to execute them or not. You mean that there is a not a sufficient degree of inspection and control provided by the legislature over the conduct of the surveyor of the roads?—I think so. Do you conceive that a more scientific system of management of roads is wanted universally?—I do. Do not you conceive that the want of this scientific system leads to a great waste of public money?—I think it leads to a great waste of public money. And also to a great waste of property in horses and carriages?—I think it does. Has any estimate ever been made of the extent of that loss?—There can be no accurate estimate of a loss so universal as that of the waste of horses and carriages by bad roads; but the Committee of 1811 estimated the saving which would be made to the country by putting the roads in a proper state of repair, at a sum equal to five millions annually. What remedy would you propose to cure the defects of the general system of road management?—My opinion is, that the only cure would be to have people of a better station of life placed over them in the direction of this business; that each county or large district in the country ought to have an officer in the character of a gentleman, to oversee the surveyors of the district; not only to direct them what to do, but to see that the work is judiciously and honestly executed; and I think a very small proportion of the sum now wasted by bad management would pay for such an establishment.