A. It is down grade from East Liberty to Lawrenceville, and there a moderate down grade until about Twenty-sixth street, where there is a short level space, probably, two or three squares, and then there is an up grade west of that point until you reach about opposite St. Bridget's church, where again it is down grade, so that a car started from the east would run towards the round-house, and a car started from the west end of the yard would run toward the round-house. Q. Do you know how long the troops remained in the round-house? A. I understand they left between five and six o'clock that morning. Q. Sunday morning? A. Yes. Q. You were not present there? A. No. Q. You do not know what occurred from your own knowledge? A. Except from what I saw from the hillside. Q. You were present during the day--Sunday? A. No. Q. Were you where you could see the movement of the rioters? A. Not after four o'clock, Sunday morning. Q. How long did the riotous proceedings continue--in other words, when did the mob disperse and cease their burning and destruction of property? A. I left town on Sunday night at nine o'clock, and I understand they were still riotous. Of my own knowledge I know nothing after that time. Our head-quarters were at Blairsville intersection. Q. When did you first get control of your road and property at this point? A. Mr. Pitcairn came west from Blairsville intersection on Wednesday, July 25, I think on the Johnstown accommodation. We were then running our through connections over the West Penn Division, from Allegheny city to Blairsville intersection, and on the main line as far as East Liberty, our mail trains, and our passenger trains, and our Uniontown express over the south-west road. Q. Were you present when the troops fired upon the crowd? If so, state all the circumstances that took place at that time? A. I have already said that I was not at Twenty-eighth street at the time of the firing, but was with General Loud at Twenty-sixth street. By Senator Reyburn: Q. You know nothing then as to what transpired at Twenty-eighth street? A. Except by seeing the crowd running, and hearing the firing, which was of an irregular character--not a volley at all. By Mr. Means: Q. The firing was something like the firing of a skirmish line? A. Yes. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. Who composed the crowd at that time? Were they railroad employés or stragglers in general, or were there any other persons in the vicinity mixed with the crowd to any extent? A. There was quite a very large number of lookers on, stationed on the hill side above--men, women, and children, scattered all along, probably for a distance of fifty thousand feet. Q. How close were they to the persons carrying on the riot?