A. It was known in six hours, I should judge, to all the men on the line after the order was posted on the bulletin boards. Q. When was it posted? A. I cannot give the date, but fancy it was posted twenty-four hours before the order should have gone into effect. Q. Did you discover that it produced any commotion among the men? A. Not more so than at other times. There was general dissatisfaction among the men on account of the double trains. Of course it increased it somewhat. There were several trains running before this order was issued, but when this order would go into effect it would make all trains double, and this would cause them to feel more dissatisfied. Q. After you returned from your dinner on Friday, how large a crowd did you find in the yard? A. I judge about twenty men--twenty-five--probably more. Q. All railroad employés? A. I cannot say that, but the greater portion of them at that time were railroad employés. The crowd gradually increased until evening. Q. Did you have any conversation with the men after you returned from your dinner? A. With some of them. Q. About going out? A. I spoke to them, and asked them who had organized it, and what they were going to do about it. They said they did not know, that they had quit because the rest had, and intended to see it through. Q. Was there any effort made that afternoon to start the trains? A. I believe not that afternoon to my knowledge. Q. When was the first effort made to start the trains, to your knowledge? A. Thursday morning. Q. Was there none made on Friday morning, to your knowledge? A. I think not. Q. Or during the day Friday? A. An effort was made, I think, in the afternoon of Friday. Q. Were you present when that effort was made? A. I was. Q. How large was the crowd at that time? A. I cannot tell the number, but it was a very large crowd. Q. Composed of employés of your railroad, and of the different roads? A. Almost all classes of men were there. Q. Who seemed to be the leaders, at that time, of the crowd? A. It would be a very difficult matter for me to say. In fact they all seemed to lead--where one would go, the rest would follow. Q. Do you mean helter-skelter? A. Yes. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. Did there seem to be any leader who was taking charge of the riot? A. In the beginning there was one man that seemed to take the lead--on the morning of Thursday, but after that I lost all trace of him. Q. Who was he? A. His name was Hice. I was in the telegraph office on Thursday morning, after the strike occurred, talking to the train runner. He came up, after the conversation with me, and I saw him in the act of trying to couple an engine on to some caboose cars. They failed to do so on account of the throwing of stones and other missiles. Q. What time was that? A. I judge about ten o'clock--along there somewhere. Q. Thursday? A. Yes. Q. Was that the first violence that was used? A. The first I saw.