A. From Thirty-third street. It was as far as we could get. I went to work on Tuesday after the Sunday of the fire. Q. You run your trains regularly up to Saturday night? A. Yes; we came in at eight-fifteen. Q. Were you there when any of the demonstrations were made by the crowd in firing or throwing stones? A. No. Q. You were not about Twenty-eighth street then? A. No. By Senator Yutzy: Q. Did you see any interference? A. I saw the interfering on Thursday with the Union Line that they were trying to take out. Q. Stopping of the train? A. Yes. Q. Was there any violence or assaulting of the engineer, or any train men of that train? A. No; the crowd just got in front of the engines, and sprung on them. By Senator Reyburn: Q. Who were those men? A. They were other men than railroad men. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. Did you know any of those men who got on your train? A. No. By Mr. Larrabee: Q. Couldn't you guess from their appearance what their trades or occupations were? A. No. By Senator Reyburn: Q. Did they get on and off the engine as if they were men used to being around the cars? A. No; some of them would get off and fall, and some of them would get off pretty good. By Mr. Means: Q. Were they sober or not? A. I could not tell that. * * * * * W. A. Kirk, _sworn with uplifted hand_: By Mr. Lindsey: Q. Where do you reside? A. At Wilkensburg. Q. What is your connection with the Pennsylvania Railroad Company? A. I am a conductor on the Wilkensburg accommodation. Q. Were you a conductor in July last? A. Yes. Q. How far is Wilkensburg from Pittsburgh? A. Seven miles. Q. How many trips do you make between these points a day? A. Five round trips. Q. What is your time for leaving? A. The first trip in the morning we leave Wilkensburg at six-fifty-four, and get there at night at ten-fifteen. Q. What time do you get to Pittsburgh? A. Seven-thirty first, and leave at nine-forty, going out on the last trip. Q. On the morning of July 19th, were you disturbed in coming in or going out? A. No. Q. When did you first learn of any difficulty or any strike? A. When I came as far as Twenty-eighth street with the twelve-five train--coming in on that trip--with the train due at the depot at that time. I then heard of it. I had heard remarks of a strike, but heard nothing definite until I came in on that trip. Q. What occurred on Friday? A. I saw men standing around there on Friday, I did not see anything at all, except seeing men standing around. Q. Were you molested in any way?